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Carmen Carrera Clashes w/ RuPaul In 'Tranny' Controversy

Lovely "transbeauty model" Carmen Carrera didn't seem to appreciate drag icon RuPaul's commentary on the use of the word "tranny."

We detailed RuPaul's comments here along with his response to Logo's supposed "distancing" from him him. 

To paraphrase, Ru says he loves the word "tranny" and denounces what he describes as the "fringe" individuals that are attempting to speak for the transgender community. 

It appears Carmen Carrera may not be on board with RuPaul and his supporters.

She tweeted:

Carmen previously expressed her feelings surrounding the use of the term "She-Male" on Facebook, posting:

We're a little worried for anyone that comes for the Queen, but Carmen--especially as a transgender woman--has the right to her opinion, correct?? What's your take, Instincters??

 

(H/T: The Gaily Grind)

Comments

OK people need to calm the hell down.  I used to work at a little club called Escuelita and guess what RuPaul used to come and watch the shows and Carmen Carrera used to perform there.  First of all Carmen is allowed to her opinion.  While she is making a nice career for herself she is still simply a person with an opinion.  She is not on the pulse of the gay community.  It is not what Carmen says goes.  RuPaul has never said a hateful thing as far as I know, so I know none of the words are used to hurt anyone.  I think everyone just needs to take a breath and let it drop.

He claims everything he has now is by his own doing and skill and work. NEWSFLASH: You would have none of this if not for lying that he were a gay man (did he not say he identified as trans before going onto Ru's show?) and got onto that show. Are you a man or a woman? Can't have it both ways. Don't say you're female, but then say you're male just to get onto a national show to further your own career. He can't have it both ways.

Carmen Carrerra AKA chick with an uncut little dick can go fuck herself.  She already admitted she is doing this to promote her tragic show.  She gave my friend an STD with her dirty hole an now he has to suffer. She introduced himself as a beginning tranny when we first met but now its suddenly different.  I hope she gets the shit slapped out of her. I am not transphobic but after her I think i need to be.  He is a disgrace and should be put down

Of course yours Transphobic why else say all the HATEFUL things you just did. I get it you have issues with HER but don't slam the rest of us just because of it. Hate the person not the medical condition.

Wow, you cray.

The Kev guy who keeps calling Carmen a sp!@ and other racist and transphobic words us not even gay. He is straight. He is purposefully inciting a fight because it entertains him. Look at his comments carefully. He said "You gays have the worst role models." I do not agree with Carmen at all but that does not mean anyone can disrespect her, her race and the trans community. Rupaul has been doing so much for the LGBT community and advancing our visibility in the mainstream before cis men and cis women or cis anything even became part of the LGBT communities vocabulary. The intention behind words is the most important. Rupaul is part of the trans community so she can say those words like African Americans can say the n-word.

I don't agree with Carmen but I'm not going to be hateful about it. Also, some of the haters need to respect that Carmen identifies as a SHE and NOT a HE and if you're going to hate, if you're really going to go there and spread hate with your short existence on this planet, then at least learn to goddamn spell!

I'm a Transgender girl! I started my hormone therapy about 7 months ago. I'm a proud trans girl! Tranny is just another word for Trans! I don't see nothing offensive about that word! Even some of my friends call me tranny! And we laugh about it! I even use it as a fun word to make jokes! Labels do exist. But the only label that matters is the one you post your self. What ever you consider your self to be is the only thing that matters! People are always gonna talk. Either you can listen, ignore it, or reply... I choose to do all of the above. I listen when I want I ignored it when I want and I reply if want too! That's the glory of being your own person and staying true to who you are. And to Carmen Carrera! Keep on doing what pleases you! But the word tranny is here and has been here and it ain't going no where... So to all Transgender girls! Stand tall and be proud regardless of any word that people try to label you as. Remember! Only you can label your self. My label is girl! And that's all that matters to me...

Beautiful!!! I didnt come out when i was the ripe age of 9 (i am 32 now) in a rural farming town.

And subject myself to bullying and teasing over it. I was called names(sissy, fag, slut, whore, bitch, cocksucker) and even beat up... But i didnt run away from my attackers. i stood up to them and i said DAMN RIGHT IM A SISSY!

I didnt endure the hard fights just for others today to have to endure the same hard fight...

We should be wearing the labels society gives us with PRIDE, not SHAME!

 

I agree completely and she mail is just a play on words, they are men in dresses on the show, it's just a cute way way to intro their minichallenge, don't read too much into people.

Hang on, let's not forget it was Parker Marie Molloy's disgraceful behavior that instigated this nonsense. Let's put the blame where it truly belongs. Don't lose focus on that hack-tivist's hateful tweet.

Carmen Carrera can be faulted for her ingratitude but Parker Marie Molloy, at Advocate.com, is the real culprit here. 

Who is she? Another dirty cunt spic who actually thinks her opinion counts. She needs to stick to cleaning houses and serving the white man like the rest of them.

Kevdobbins35205, Your uneducation and low IQ is showing....im going to go out on a limb here and suggest no one serves you or bows down to your authority huh?? Your just another pissed off, pimply faced male who cant get laid so you need to verbally abuse others to make youself feel important...Hahaha what a douche pump

like really...... i don't get where Carmen is coming from. a tran is still a tran. and nothing is new. come on this subject is getting old.... BRING BACK SHE MAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  THEIR FUCKIN DUDES IN DURESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carmen needs to go have several seats in traffic, didn't nobody ask her to make nary comment about the use of the word tranny she just injected her notions about what she was feeling 

I have never known RuPaul to be offensive to anyone and I mean anyone!  Carmen Carrera wouldn't even be relevant if RuPaul had not cast him to be can Drag Race.  Carmen should be thanking his lucky stars that he was given this wonderful opportunity.  Instead, Carmen is acting like an ungreatful little bitch!  In the words of Noxema Jackson " When a tired little Latin boy puts on a dress, he is simply a boy in a dress"!

love the last part! that is exactly what i thought about when she first posted that crap! Tired little Latin boy in a dress!!!

He is a she. Grow up.

AMEN you don't have to insult HER just because you don't agree with what's SHE'S saying. I being trans don't agree with her opion of RDR or Rupaul himself but I respect that she has an opion. And don't need to spew Transphobic hate to do it.

I do not support neither Rupaul nor Carmen. Both of them are acting like children.

Rupual should be the first to know when certain language is outdated and how certain words hurt others. I don't recall hearing anything like "you got fagmail" on Drag race and I wonder why? Instead of her admitting to being wrong, she is acting like a total child. I find she is becoming the Oprah of drag as she is always giving b.s. life advice. Well here's some life advice, grow the ef up!

As for the group of trans people attacking Rupaul, I am sorry to say, but she has been doing more for your cause longer than most of you have been alive. Rupaul has always supported trans people and you people are using her as a scape goat for a much bigger issue than words. Instead of trying to change laws or anything that will help your cause, trans people are fighting a gay man over language. I find this all to be homophobic, since gay men are not your problem. This last time I checked the physical violence trans people have had to endure has been from the straight community.

I find it very rich that Carmen Carrera is bitching about language. First off, she had no problem with the show when she was on it. Also, a good chunk of her fame stems from Rupaul's Drag Race, so biting the hand that feeds never does anyone any good. On several occasions of Drag race and Carmen's youtube videos I have heard her replace the word "straight" with "normal". Actually many times I have heard her say normal to explain straight. For someone who dislikes certain language I am very offended her by saying straight is normal. I would like to know what is so non normal about being gay? I also, find how she has dealt with this whole situation disgusting and her actions have been disgusting. Instead of trying to talk to Rupual in person, the man who helped her career, she has taken the childish route. If Carmen wants changes than act like a decent human being and have an adult discussion with Rupaul instead of taking this to twitter and facebook where you fans have been extremely rude, just like Rupaul fans.

no se porque chingados se la toman muy a la ofensiva. Al fin al cabo nunca seran verdaderas mujeres les guste o no, no nacieron con panocha, nunca podran parir por la cortada que se les hace. Y si no se las pican se cierra el borlote pues que chingados es eso, si que esta kabron. Uno deberia de amarse tal y como Dios los trajo al mundo. Shemale no lo veo ofensivo porque son algo de en medio y pues al parecer nunca seran ni de uno ni del otro.

Holy shit people got some stuff to say about this! One video says it all. http://youtu.be/9O7ytplj47s Let's stop taking it personal, and it use it to empower you, like it was intended

That bitch just want the attention for her new reality ( i bet Tyra is telling her to do it), u r not that special... u don't have a talent u r just a pretty Tranny...

She is a damn tranny! She's actually a  darn “shim"(she/him"! She's a chick 'a stick. She can't even properly pronounce her own damn last name bc the “shim" (she/him) is white washed.

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She has no problems with the offensive names she calls people to their faces. I had to stop watching RuPaul Drag Race, because of Carmen's constant bullying and offensive name calling. Maybe she needs to address that issue publicly, before going after someone else. 

Not sure Carmen will ever realize what an ignorant bitch she is. Unfortunate. 

0. Cis-gendered gay men do not get to tell trans women how they feel.

1. It never hurts to respect someone - if someone wants to be referred to in a certain way, just do it -it's so much more a decent and otherwise a classier thing to do. Don't be a jerk and argue with them as to why they are wrong.

#SoOVER this issue already!!!  Bring back She-Mail & tell Ms. Carmen Carrera to sit on her own damn middle finger & SPIN!!!!!  Smh 

Funny how those offended by those words state is because of the fact it insists violence, rape and such. But faggot, homo, queer, and such have been uttered for years and you don't see us all up in arms and blaming Ru for the violence thats happen against the rest of us in our community.

Hey Cristian, it didn't bother you one bit when you were on RDR. Regardless of what you say, Tranny and shemale have been used for eons, are you going to personally have every porn film with the word shemale erased? Yeah right, you just found the demise of who you are, cause honestly if it wasn't for Rupaul, you'd still be a nobody. So when you get your vagaygay done, then call yourself a woman, but while you still have a dick between your legs you are still a shemale, just a latin boy in a dress.

Love that u said this. I like Carmen. She wasn't complaining when she was getting her start from the show!

I understand the issue. I get that words are used to hurt. But I dont think asking people to wipe the word away is the answer, education is, and I do think that is happening here and there. There are some of us that don't identify as male or female. We are Trannies (yes, we are out there). Should I be ashamed for what I identify as? It's who we are. WE give words power by the intention Placed behind them. I think this whole issue is a lot less black and white than people assume. It's good that there is dialog happening, but sometimes I think the dialog is happening the wrong way. when it gets so ugly and hate filled it kind of slows the progress because of the animosity bogging it down. This is not criticism of Ru or Carmen, more of the dialog have read on social media and in the comment sections.

Who is she????

Another unimportant, dirty spic cunt who actually thinks her opinion is worth anything.

You gays have the WORST role models!

Who the hell do you think you are, you racist piece of shat???  What a disgusting thing to say about an absolutely beautiful woman...

What a disgusting comment, Kevin. It's gay men like you that give everyone else a bad name.

Hey kevdobbins35205. .i want to show you my role model in person. When can we meet?

If ever I have the misfortune of stumbling into your ghetto trailer park I will surely let you know so that we can "meet".

Why bring someone down that has done so much for the LBGT community. RuPaul has opened doors for so many. I don't believe he would do anything that would hurt someone. Don't put a divide in the community. It's just going to give people another reason to go against our community. UNITED WE STAND"

The problem is that in the lgbt community, the Bs get ignored and the Ts get walked on. No matter that we are out there with the Ls and the Gs facing the shitstorm on their issues, our issues are to be slapped down because they aren't important or might impede the Ls and Gs from getting what they want.

Carmen did not have a problem when she was on drag race. The queens like to be referred to as she when in drag or competing. And mail is mail not male. Its the 5 G's. Lets get it together and move on. It is not that big of a deal. It seems like it is more spotlight time to me. I love Carmen but i think she should not bite the hand that fed her!!!

I don't think people realize that, what sparked this was the mini-challenge during Season 6 called, “Female or Shemale," (video of the segment here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/03/19/rupaul_s_drag_race_and_tra... )

I agree with Sean: When Carmen was on the show, she did not have any issues with the terms Shemale or tranny....only now that she has become full transgender does she seem to have issues. Yes, she is beautiful as a woman but even I have noticed that she flaunts her body for all to see. If she wishes to do so, that is fine. But I can imagine that many people have made comments to her regarding her transgender transformation. I have never thought anything derogatory or offensive when RuPaul has used those terms on her show and I think there is nothing wrong with them. Of course, that is only my opinion....  :)

He is not fully transgendered, he still has a penis. He is just trying to get fame for something he is not yet. And yes I am anonymous, because I know him personally, and I am tired of his bullshit and better than anyone attitude. His man left him because as a gay man he wants a gay man, not a woman, regardless if he has tits, and long hair, he still has a penis, so once he is done then he should talk.

I fucken hate Carmen carrera, but the term "fully transgendered" doesn't even make sense. Transgender is an umbrella term. There is not one definition of transgender because transgender is many different things and possibilities. Your comment makes you look stupid and uneducated and you should get your facts straight before you throw your two cents in that are completely invalid.

1. The definition of transgender is "a person appearing or attempting to be a member of the opposite sex". Having the surgery is not what makes Carmen transgendered. SHE was transgendered from the first time she realized she was missing part of her life by living as a male. 

2. The fact that you know her is inconsequential. Being rude is being rude either way you look at it.

3. I disagree with Carmen completely about thinking that the word tranny is offensive. My very best friend in the world is transitioning, and it bothers me greatly when people do not respect gender pronouns for the people who are going through the struggle. So my comment is only serving as a reminder of how rude you are being.

4. If it's only a fame thing, and not becoming a female, that Carmen wants, then she will regret that in time. But belittling her does nothing to fix that.

THANK YOU for being the first decent human being responding on this site. I can't believe all the negative comments i've read. Its DISGUSTING.

Elvis would have been nobody without Tom Parker!
Yeah yeah, Carmen's no Elvis, but the point is still valid.

Carmen did not have a problem with the term She-Mail while she was on drag race. Lets not forget that drag queens like to be referred to as she in drag...and mail well that is what it is mail not male!!!

I don't think people realize that, what sparked this was the mini-challenge during Season 6 called, “Female or Shemale," (video of the segment here:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/03/19/rupaul_s_drag_race_and_transphobia_why_the_shemale_game_was_offensive.html )

She was talking about a "game" on the show: Female or Shemale. Poor taste does not even begin to describe what was done.

This is getting old. What is the deal here. Carmen would still be performing on a stage just like she was before RuPaul. She herself has referred to her self as a tranny. What I don't understand is what the hype is all about. People within a community call each other slang words all the time. What's different now....

Try googling tranny or shemale and you'll see why it's a problem now.

This is not a new issue. Trans advocates have been complaining about this for years now, but they never got any attention until Carmen's spoke up.
PS for our allies, we are not transgendered, we are transgender. It's not something that is happening to us, it's what we are.
For the bigots, gender is in the brain, just like sexuality, not in the chromosomes or sex organs. This is a well established scientific fact. Sex and gender develope independently in the womb.

So all of you who have worked for an asshole. You all took on the task of correcting the boss? None of you just bit your tongue as the boss spewed crap? Carmen knew this was a 1 year gig and afterward spoke up about it. 
Plus, Google has search tools that will allow you to search a specific time frame. MANY trans blogs spoke against the slurs on Drag Race since shortly after the show's inception. Just no one cared about the trans community's opinions until it became a topic of concern during the last few years.
RuPaul tore the hide off Amanda Bynes for using the word f____t, but we transgender folk are to toughen up because the bigotted double-standard spewing gay cismale says to. Right.

Yes I have spoke up to my BOSS and it didn't wait until years later! I lost my job but also i wasnt looking for fame! she was and still is

Oh, and love the unnecessary use of caps on BOSS.

HUGS

You have addressed but one of the points I raised. The one that shows how much you hate Carmen. We get it.

And good for you for doing what most would not in a situation that lasts only the length of the filming of one season when instead most would let it roll off their back until they were out of the situation.

Now, how about addressing the other points?
 

I never said I hated anyone! As for the other points I am not bothered by the word F----T...... Because I am not a cig! For the google thing I have done that with a really good Trans friend sitting next to me right meow. ( she says HI) As she has a lot of Trans friends and hears them call each other tranny as a joke all the time and she has used the word. How she has dealt with it for the last 10 years is just thinking its a fucking word because it don't define her as a Lady... her words 

I will keep her name out of it like she and she has asked me to.  

Sorry for assuming your first reply was done out of negative feeling towards Carmen. It does sort of come off that way.
I am glad you have put some thought and research into the opinions you are sharing. 
I think though one must keep in mind that the use of a word we ignore within the community or in a one-on-one basis is very different than if it becomes a common use term for the masses and bandied about on television. If f____t was used on the television to describe a LGBT person on the news or such, I doubt it would go over so well.
And if members of the male population tried to dictate what should and should not be offensive to women, again... not so much.
Agreed there are persons like your friend who enjoy the use of the word tranny, but I know far more in the transgender community that do not. Of all ages and walks of life. There are many within certain communities that have grown up with certain words being commonplace and do not understand the changes in what is acceptable. The word tranny has a history of refering to members of the drag/CD/transsexual community in a way to identify them amongst others and themselves. However, it has evolved through use by the masses to be heavily associated with the porn and sex trades. It is often used in a derogatory fashion during hate crimes or verbal abuse.
Here in this blog post there is a chronological history of the word's usage.
http://www.transadvocate.com/tranny-an-evidence-based-review-2_n_13593.htm

Joking around with friends is one thing, getting called out in public is completely different.

WHo called her out on RuPauls?

Google the words tranny and surname with safe search disabled. That's what the public thinks of every time they are uttered in public. They also are too often the last words one of us hears before being assaulted, raped, or murdered. If the words don't matter, why did you censor your own post?

Shemale, not surname. Stupid autocorrect...

First I would like to say I am a straight woman who usually supports most issues surrounding the LGBT community. While I can understand being able to identify as a woman, the fact is genetically she is not. It's not fair to expect the rest of the world to ignore what they know to be true. If you are so proud to be a transsexual why try to mask it or disguise it to be something different. I feel the same about biracial people who hide being black. If you want to change society's perception you should first look within and embrace both the good and the bad. While you might not change everyone's mind, exemplify the pride you have in being you by not caring about what label anyone places on you. It's you people learn to accept, not the label

Hey "Perfect," guess what? Go fuck yourself. You're not the arbiter who's a woman and who isn't, 

So why can't she just be referred to as human? I doubt she is looking for stardom for voicing her opinion.

Not everyone is a hero or is in a situation where they can be themselves. Fear of being abandoned, fired, beaten, or raped is difficult to overcome when that is the norm for us.

What a BITCH..... She didn't have a problem when it was being use while she was on the show! She was a little Latin boy in a dress and now is a Trans with no dress and now just pasties.... #teamRuPaul

I don't think people realize that, what sparked this was the mini-challenge during Season 6 called, “Female or Shemale," (video of the segment here:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/03/19/rupaul_s_drag_race_and_transphobia_why_the_shemale_game_was_offensive.html )

Carman. I am 100% on your side on this. Words hurt more than any physical pain. the scars from the emotional pain words can cause will last a lot longer and so we should definately watch what we say

Gee, so let me understand. Because Charles has done quite a lot for the gay and drag community we just all need to accept whatever he does or says no matter what it is or no matter how it might be hurtful and harmful to others. And this must be because he is the expert on everything...well I guess I must have missed that memo. No matter who you are sometimes mistakes and missteps are made, that is what makes us all human. How hard is it to just admit that perhaps, perhaps!, what is a common term within HIS community is offensive and harmful in many others. I guess just too hard for someone that is all about ego and not much on compassion and understanding. Instead he states that If you are transgender and offended by something that YOU find hurtful and demeaning you need to grow a backbone?? Ugh, gee sounds like a bully to me!  How hard would it be for Charles to say something like that while he does not feel he is using those terms to offend anyone, however, he can understand how to some others it could be just that, quite offensive. But no instead he calls the people that speak their opinions "fringe" to dismiss them in an ugly dehumanizing manor. And to all of you that seem to think that you can attack those of us that are trans, and are offended by the terms Charles uses on his show, I guess you are just expressing what you have always felt and now have issue to shout your bigoted and ugly transphobic opinions. At least until it is time for you to act politically correct again in the light of day. Sadly the vile comments and attacks are not a shock.

Stop calling her transgender! She's a cunt! 

That's like telling us to stop calling a cancer patient 'a cancer patient' because they're a wiener sometimes. Being trans has nothing to do with what kind of a person you are. Your either are or you aren't.

Carmyn, trying not to offend, but remember who put you on his show.  One last thing.

#ByeFelicia

@Roger Evans

That's just stupid. So if your boss was homophobic or racist --- I guess you better not speak up because you wouldn't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Well that might be how you think, but I have more integrity and even if my boss gave me my job I wouldn't put up with slurs.

LOVES IT

Stop calling her transgendered she's a "woman" now

I am not a woman and will never be a woman!!!!!! You need to understand that I am just a boy with fake breast that spent thousands to look like one.

"You've got she-mail" has been a segment of the show since season 1.  Why would you participate in the 3rd season knowing that it uses a phrase you find offensive?

I don't think people realize that, what sparked this was the mini-challenge during Season 6 called, “Female or Shemale," (video of the segment here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/03/19/rupaul_s_drag_race_and_tra... )

He is what he is at this point a boy with boobs.... Time to grow up he has felt more hurt than he ever will by just dealing with coming out as a gay male just like the rest of us.

Excuse me Glen, Carmen is not a boy with boobs. She is a woman to call her anything other than that is absurd, ridiculous, and out right rude. As a fat male you should know better. Shame on you. Know what the LG T community faces and deals with on a daily basis as I am sure you have personally experience with. One would think you would be more understanding, and accepting. Really......Shame on you.

Actually, until she has the surgery, she is still a dude, therefore, she is still partly male. If she is female above the waist, and male below the waist, then she is, literally, a "she-male" regardless of how she identifies. However, if she wants to be seen as a woman, then she needs to live as a woman and work as a woman. She needs to stop doing drag shows because she does not identify as a drag queen. Additionally, if the word is so offensive to her, then why didn't she say something while she was on RuPaul's Drag Race? Simple, because it would have ended her moment in the spotlight. Now, people are moving on and focusing attention elsewhere, and that takes e attention away from her. The more this debate continues, the more she sits there smiling over the attention she gets, and having her name in everyone's mouths. There are many words that people no linger find offensive because people are no longer giving hurtful power to those words. When gays started calling each other "faggot", the straight homophobic people lost that word as a weapon. She needs to stop allowing the word "she-male" to offend her, then it will no longer be a weapon for transphobic people to use. And that is just plain common sense. But for someone who wants to remain in the spotlight, she will continue to make a big deal over a freaking word. 

Carmen does live and work as a woman, because she is one. Drag is an art, not an identity. Gender is a function of the brain. What's between her legs is no concern of yours unless you have an intimate relationship with her.

LGBT* don't fight for the T if you are going to forget the B. We are people as well and have a place and word just like you all. Thank you :) you may now go back to arguing. 

I've never known so much human ignorance in my life!

3 phrases have been deemed " offensive for a television programme. So what?!?

No one has said this two words can't be used in real life (with caution or in context).

#getoverit

Carmen, to me You are one of my favorite transgendered ladies, Just please don't forget, Ru did help You to be put on the map, and helped Your carear to be. Me, I dearly love You both as I've learn to almost all the queens on the drag race. You all are emenslly talented. And to me, the drag race is one of the best things that RuPaul EVER had the grace to come up with.

Look at these comments, pretty much all of them are disgraceful. If we treat each other like dogs, how do we expect other people oblivious to LGBT communities to see us!

Fools and fucking idiots talking like some sassy camp-ass record that got scratched, Carmen has a point- even if she is aiming on and overly blaming it at Ru, she is making a universally relevant point. 

She needs to take a seat and shut the fuck up.  

Carmen shut the fuck up your irrelevant !!!!!!!!!!!

I definitely side with RuPaul.  As a drag queen myself I use the term tranny and I use it with my transgendered friends and we all laugh about it.....It's not meant as a derogatory term at all.  Anyone who does something outside of their gender is transgender and that includes drag queens (Entertainers), transvestites (usually straight men who enjoy wearing women's clothing) and Trans men and women are all Trannys.  Get the fuck over it.....It's a term of endearment so to speak.  And being someone who was on and off hormones to become a woman I never had a problem referring to myself as a tranny if someone asked if that was a boy or a girl.  I'm a tranny and proud of it!

I am finding this really difficult to reconcile.  I love RuPaul. Love him and have the utmost of respect for him...always have.  I don't personally know either of them and I can't say what it is like for them.  I'm also not transgendered. I think they are some of the most heroic people in my book and especially the trans men and women in my life.  I would never call any of them that word.  Even in jest.  Never in a million years.  And neither would RuPaul.  And...by the way, he didn't.  

I totally understand where Carmen is coming from.  But her problem is her delivery.  She is lacking in the communication department and is trying to communicate like she would have communicated before she became the personality she is.  That being said, I don't want to hurt the feelings of any of my transgendered brothers and sisters.  I think they are truly, very special and for that reason I will not use the word, even in jest.  I'm just so mad at Carmen for dragging RuPaul into this screwed up mess simply by bringing the conversation down to a level of immaturity and opportunity for her alone.

Even if Carmen was right on with her thinking, it's her delivery and lack of charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent that people will not forgive soon.  She has a responsibility to shape herself up to be the spokesperson she so wants to be for those that need it.  She needs a publicists immediately who can assist her in shaping her message and her delivery.  If we thought of this as a mini-challenge on the show, she would have failed.  We can't fault her for stepping out there and putting her foot in her mouth, but we can expect brighter, more responsible communications and leadership from the leaders in our community.  If that's what you want to be, then you must shape up or step aside for those that will and have.  There's not a person out there that knows Ru's story and his background and history that would ever say that he would be anything other than completely respectful and loving of humanity.  To accuse him of anything other than being the big ball of love he is, is what I'm having a big problem with.

I am struggling with this.  I find myself looking for one of them to be the bigger person and admit something is off in the way this is going.  This is not a dialog that is happening.  It's a hot mess.  I think they need to meet and fix this immediately and come together, in the middle and stop trying to save face.  Secretly I kept wishing Carmen would just fade away because of this BS she's causing, but the fact still remains that some of our transgendered brothers and sisters have an issue with the word altogether.  We should consider this when using it.  Then...maybe then...Carmen will go away and her 10 minutes will have expired on this subject and she can then create herself as the fabulous woman she wants to be.  Until then, we are all doomed to be split and angry and it will eat us alive.  And Carmen...if you are forcing me to choose between supporting you and your poorly delivered message (however right it may be) or stand with the proven integrity and love and light of RuPaul, I'm afraid you leave me no choice.  I don't trust you and I don't trust you to speak for our community, however divided we may be right now.  We will come back together on this issue.  Maybe you were needed to get us to talk it out and that's your role.  Until you complete with the community on your past with the show, the name calling (Heather/Booger), the not having a problem with this issue until much later thing, all of it...you will not be a spokesperson for this or anything else.  You are actually going to damage the message and the very ones you want to support and stand for.

YAS!

If it weren't for RuPaul elevating her to what she is now, she would be just another queen looking for work in Jersey. 

#boyfromElmwoodPark

#sitdownFelicia #you'renotthatserious

oh please tranny

Carmen Carrera would be a nobody without RuPaul. She certainly had no problem with being on the show in the first place and milking it for what it was worth. Talentless wench.

I don't think people realize that, what sparked this was the mini-challenge during Season 6 called, “Female or Shemale," (video of the segment here:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/03/19/rupaul_s_drag_race_and_transphobia_why_the_shemale_game_was_offensive.html )

This is the easy way for her to get publicity for her new documentary

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