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Gay Writer Andrew Sullivan Chastises LGBT Over Mozilla CEO's Resignation

It's not only fundamentalist homophobes (who themselves called for Brendan Eich's resignation from Mozilla for not being anti-gay enough) chastising the LGBT— it's members of our own community, too. Noted media man Andrew Sullivan says that pushing Eich out of Mozilla means the gays should count him out of future activism. 

"The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists," Andrew writes. "Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us."

What do you think about Andrew's opinion?


I totally disagree with you Mr. Sullivan.  It is an expression of a "healthy self-esteem" to complain about people walking all over you and trying to stamp out attempts at establishing equal rights.  If there were more people like you, the gay civil rights movement would never have started.  In this day and age of progressive civil rights, I am simply shocked of your backward thinking. Your comments Mr. Sullivan are so backwards that they sound like they're coming from idiotic ramblings of Archie Bunker from the late 70's. 

I can sort of see why Andrew would be upset.  We DO have to live wiht people who disagree with us. Yes, he chose to leave, but the question is,how much did our own pressure factor into his decision? Perhaps we did go overboard.

(And i thin that ryan mike and mike ryan are the same perosn.)

The man donated money for an Constitutional amendment to TAKE AWAY A CITIZEN'S rights! Plain and simple, As an earlier poster said, "He used his free speech, so did we". What the LGBT community did was stop using and supporting a product. They were just as entitled to do that as was Mr Sullivan was to his opinion.

He used is free speech, and so are we.

The First Amendment is an American concept, it doesn't apply to the entire world. Mozilla is international and this man had to go.

Sorry Andrew Sullivan, I think you are full of sh*t!! Brendan Eich's beliefs weren't the issue. The issue was the way Mozilla AND Mr. Eich tried to (pardon the pun) BLOW this over and not address it. Now, if Mr. Eich simply stated that his beliefs and his private charitable donations were HIS business, that would have been enough for me. I'd still boycott Firefox (it's now off my PC). I don't think he should have been fired. No different a situation to me as Exxon-Mobil and Chick Fil-A. I don't buy their products, but I also don't go around social media calling for their CEOs to be fired. They are out and open about their bigotry. 

I think Andrew is misguided.  I agree with the freedom of speech.  I also strongly agree with the fact that words have consequences.  You can't just "say anything you want" without consequences.  We have the right to call out hate and discrimination where we see it.  And - it was the CEO's decision to quit his own job.  Nobody fired him or threw him out.  He was not "scalped by some gay activists".  His own company pressured him - internally!  Get your facts straight.  A hateful bigot is no longer the CEO of a company that has a non-discrimination policy.  I see nothing wrong with this.  

I believe justice was done here.  Yes he has the right to his opinion, but we are all subject to the repercussions that our opinions can invite.  I am sure this guy is going to go on living & do just fine, but maybe he will think twice about the political causes he funds in the future.  I believe that anyone who supports anti gay causes, is anti gay.  They are against us.  They are the enemy & they need to be educated in compassion, understanding & empathy.  We should also empathize with them & understand that their beliefs & opinions, although incorrect, have often been instilled in them from very early in their lives.  This kind of example provokes conversation & thought.  Getting people to think for themselves is the key.  We have to accept that people have been mis-educated, but they can learn.  This situation is an example & a lesson that will make people think a little harder before they support anti gay causes.

I think we need to rescind Andrew Sullivan's gay card.  Traitor.

"The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California..."

No one is arguing he right to do and say what he pleases. No one is saying he is a criminal and should be put in jail. The government isn't stepping in to carry him away. Just as he as the right to do, say, and otherwise express his opinions, so do others. And a large chunk of the population does not want a man like this in the most senior position at a large and influential tech company. 

To me this seems like a process that worked out just fine. A company listened to its customers, and made a quick change. Win win.

No one is arguing "his right" to do and say.

Damn. Just noticed that. There's no edit button. 

According to Andrew we shouldn't "hound" our opponents. And what are we supposed to do Mr. Sullivan? Let them walk all over us and "hound" us? All this "disgusts" you? Well it disgusts me that a gay man thinks it's perfectly OK to let a homophobe run a huge corporation. God forbid we should make him feel uncomfortable! Let's just forget that Proposition 8 destroyed hundreds of peoples dreams and lives. That doesn't matter does it "Mr." Sullivan???

Precisely.  We're done taking it.  Period.

The difference between Andrew and me:

If someone actively tries to deny me my rights, I "hound" them.  Andrew bends over.

"What do you think about Andrew's opinion?"

I think that eveyone is entitled to an opinion.   I also think that everyone is RESPONSIBLE for what they say and do in public.   There are consequences to voicing an opinion, and that is the natural cost of expressing yourself.   I don't think that Mr. Eich should be imprisoned, tortured or beaten for his stand on Gay Rights, but I do think that it is OK for him to lose a wonderful job because he went out of his way to attempt to support a movement that would deprive people of their rights.   It is natural then, for those who he would have made into second-class citizens to respond with a boycott of the company that would give him a better life, and more money to use to oppose their lifestyle.   This is just Karma in action.


Uneducated response.  Learn how to put together a sentence.  

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