There's A Term For Men Who Have Sex With Men, But Hate The Gay Label

If you haven't heard, there's a growing number of men who sleep with men who refuse to call themselves gay, because they don't identify with the "lifestyle."

They're called androphiles, and they are lovers of 'men and masculinity.'

A man named Nicolas Chinardet claims he helped popularize the term in the early 2000s. 

He tells the BBC:

“I think homosexual is a bit clinical, and lots of people use it negatively. ‘Gay’ has a certain lifestyle attached to it, which I don’t recognise myself in.”

Chinardet says he identifies as an androphile, and not a homosexual, because he doesn't like clubbing or shopping.

He explains:

“It’s a polite, nonspecific way to ask what a certain person is attracted to. An androphilic man is homosexual, while an androphilic woman is heterosexual."

Photo: BBC

It's been suggested that the androphile label has gained popularity among young gay men who tend to identify as politically conservative.

37-year-old Henning Diesel, who himself identifies as an androphile, explains that he rejects the homosexual label because he isn't a fan of popular gay culture.

“Gay is part of the LGBT+ world that I never see myself as part of," he says, while later noting that he doesn't care for "gay music like Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande, and Miley Cyrus” or “gay TV and movies like Queer As Folk.”

24-year-old James Milton, is yet another man who identifies as an androphile.

He tells the BBC that he adopted the label approximately six years ago, just as he was struggling to find his place within the LGBT community. 

He says the term, “affirmed my suspicion that I wasn’t gay–just a man who happens to sleep with other men.” 

Again referencing a distaste for popular gay club music, Milton says, “I didn't relate to the pre-determined gay identity."

The young man adds that his love of wrestling and mixed martial arts (MMA) has caused him to feel ostracized by gay men.

While the term androphile has gained popularity in recent years, it's also been co-opted by members of the alt-right.  Because of that, Chinardet says that he might ultimately have to coin a new term. 

 

“I think I’m going to have to review my description.

“I want absolutely nothing to do with those people.”

 

 

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There’s a Queer as Folk movie? 

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Being gay is nothing to do with a "lifestyle". What's not tolerable is homophobia from homosexuals no matter what you call your sexual identity.

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Why don't they call themselves a more accurate word, cowards.

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Shut your face.

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LOL

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While I use the word gay like 50% of the time mainly because it is widely used I still don't feel fully represented by that word as I feel it speaks more of a subcultural/suburban identity than it speaks of sexual orientation. "Homosexual", on the other hand, is a word I use most of the time as I feel it only refers to sexual orientation and nothing else but that.

While I don't get mad if someone uses gay with me I still feel a disconnection with that word, an identity that doesn't really resonate with me, especially because, for example, I don't frequent gay spaces (not because I hate but because they don't appeal to my interests), I don't listen to music stereotyped as gay, and other things that are connected with a "gay identity". I didn't develop a connection with gay (sub)culture/scene.  I feel "gay" is more about those things than it is about sexual orientation. In y country "homosexual" has always been the main word and there isn't a particular stigma attached to it. While I'm neither complete the opposite of the gay stereotype I think "homosexual" simply says I like the same sex and that's all.

I knew of the existence of "androphile" and I don't really think I have anything against it. It sounds a bit unusual to my ears, but I don't think I have an opinion about it.

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Yup. It’s called stupid. 

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Crap, Crap, Crap, and more CRAP! Do all straight men like football, smoking cigars, or Bruce Springsteen? NO! But they still like women and are ALL still considered straight. Of course this is just an example considering the vast differences in men and men's characteristics. Who gives a damn if you dont like a certain style of music, certain catch phrases, gay bars, or the LGBT alphabet..... Your still a homo and all the words that come with it! Assign all the new words you need to to make yourself feel better but baby you still are sucking D**k. Your gay! 

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You’re

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I was in army wwii and later....I was a gorgeous soldier with everything to offer.....many times had sex with other men that were not gay...if they had been, they would have kissed me and done to me what I did to them....but they didn't....they were straight and needed an outlet.   In those days.  a good ck sukr was a welcome dude in many situaations..  one such place, on the 21 day voyage to Korea on that damned boat  ..  oh my, couldn't get any rest.  I'm happy now and all alone...91 yrs old...I never could get hkooked up with a gay   ..   so; all alone...young folks don't like old men.  

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Sounds fake but ok

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LGBTQ finally gets to buy a vowel!

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Why they say on the image highlighted above “a person of any gender attracted to men” is adrophile well to me sounds like if is a men attracted to a men is gay if if a women is androphile ?? Or straight?? 

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I've never liked the term either. It seems to denote people who identify with only that one small aspect of who they are. Like they have or do nothing else but run around being gay listening to Cher and Madonna and buying the latest trendy clothes.  I grew up a punk rocker into new wave and industrial music, mish pits, second hand stores and fast cars. I just happened to like guys also but certainly not stereotypes 

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What’s a mish pit? Sounds pretty gay

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Um, "I want nothing to do with gay culture like Lady Gaga....Ariana....Queer as Folk..." but I can tell you all about it. Lol. Really?

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So that's what I am! I don't fit in with gay culture either. Glad there's a term for this.  I'm not all about "yassss", drag queens, dancing, cher/britney/gaga, shorts way above my knees... 

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Lol..there are a LOT of problems with these "quotes" 

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Thank you, thank you, thank you finally something I can identify with , I do not classify myself as gay but love men. I hate labels and the LGBT alphabet 

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