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Two Gay Men Murdered, Allegedly Targeted Via Gay Mobile Hookup App

​Seattle police are investigating the double homicide of two gay men, whom they suspect may have been targeted and lured through a gay mobile hook-up app.

KIRO 7 reports that according to court documents released on Wednesday:

Ali Muhammad Brown, 30, was charged with two counts of aggravated first-degree murder – a crime that could come with the death penalty if convicted.

Ahmed Said, 27, and Dwone Anderson-Young, 23, were killed early on the morning of June 1 near 29th Avenue South and South King Street.

“It is evident that the murders were premeditated and unprovoked and part of a common scheme or plan,” Senior Deputy Prosecutor Wyman Yip wrote in charging documents. “The evidence from the crime scene, Said’s vehicle, and the autopsies suggest that the victims were essentially executed.”

Both victims were shot in the head and there was no evidence or a struggle that preceded the killings. Yip said there was no evidence that the killings were motivated by a robbery, drugs or another crime. The shooting deaths happened about 2:20 a.m. -- less than 17 minutes after two witnesses saw Brown leave with the victim in Said’s car.

According to witnesses:

The victims had been with friends at R Place, a gay nightclub at Boylston Avenue and East Pine Street on Capitol Hill. Said told the group he was meeting a “friend” outside the club when they left. One of Said’s friends had the feeling that Said hadn’t met the “friend” before.

While Said was at R Place, he was constantly on his phone and appeared to be texting on an app like Grindr or Jack’d – mobile apps used by gay men to meet others.

The group left the bar at closing time and crossed Boylston Avenue to meet with Said’s friend, but the man looked unfriendly and out of place. One of the friends in the group later told police he was “creeped out” by the man who was later identified as Brown.

Said's car was later found with an "exorbitant" amount of blood on the passenger side seat. 9 mm shell casings that matched those found at the crime scene were also found in the car along with Brown's palm print on the interior rear driver's side window. 

Brown’s mother told police that she had purchased a 9 mm semiautomatic pistol and that it was missing.

Police suspect that Brown may be in New Jersey, where he has ties, and where he is also wanted for a robbery this past Sunday. 

Truly scary stuff. 

Comments

This story is really messed up, we as gay men should prioritize better, and work on building a stronger community so that the younger gay population coming up behind us do not sub come to this type of madness, furthermore reduce the spread of HIV and syphilis- 2 things that are essentially attacking the gay community... Also, adults, when some one makes a lude or prejudice comment, just ignore them. People are attention starved and in desperate need for attention, I own 0 pets so why would I feed into bullshit or even let it drink from my toilet??

A nigger being a nigger. No matter how refined a black may attempt to be, they ALWAYS show the nigger in themselves sooner than later.

Ever notice how the blacks look strikingly similar to the baboon from the zoo? With their BIG nostrils, BIG lips, nappy hair, dark leathery skin and even the way the walk with their knuckles almost dragging the ground. Very obvious that a white man traveled to Africa, fucked a baboon and out came the nigger. They even act like the baboon with their wild behavior.

Another pussy ass white boy who is scared to use his name. Fuck off you little bitch. Your rant does nothing but make other TOLERANT white boys look bad....little bitchass

Why the ignorant ads white boy talking all that shit... what about the dumb white man who shot up the movie theater????? Oh wanna talk about how we look... dont come out the house when it's raining cuz all hunkies smell like wet dog....

I normally don't comment on anything but your post is very ignorant and uncalled for.......I wonder what makes people like you have so much hatred in your heart! What really amazes me is that you talk this big talk but afraid to put your name why is that? This article had nothing to do with race it was about sexual preference which by the way is no reason to murder somebody to each his own why can't we just learn to love one another than judge? It saddens me to know that their are people like you still in existence. I'm Caucasian who has had a same sex love affair does that make me a nigger or white trash? I mean what would I be called? Anyway may God cover you in your time of need because it looks as if the Devil has your soul good luck to you 

You guys are like McDonald's for trolls. Don't feed!

And yet you remain anonymous you dumb fuck.... The fact that this situation is something that you've turned into a racist joke implements the very true fact that you're and uneducated idiot who probably live off his parents or fat ugly girl friend.

Go a fuck your mother with racist comments I would to see your punk ass say that to my face u faggit

I love how you respond to his racial slur using a derogatory word against another population. You are one and the same.

Sadly, in America (and elsewhere), there's more than enough hate & stupidity to go around.  

Great news for the "conservatives" I suppose.  Vote in 2014!  

wow this is more like a psycho being a psycho the color of ones skin has nothing to do with it if you are fucked up in the head then you do fucked up things no matter what race you are .... you fucking redneck

You really are a dumb ass fool who been raised to be a ass hole you parents must ain't been shyt because they produced a idiot 

This is not the first time men have been murdered from people they met on Grindr. It has happened a few times now. Those of you who do use it, please exercise extreme caution! 

I hope they gut that piece of sh*t. Makes me sick to my stomach, but at the same time it's a wake up call that there's alot of sick & twisted people out there that still have hate towards the LGBT community. It's a wake up call for me on those apps, I won't lie I am on them, but I would never go meet a nasty looking piece of trash like that killer, he looks trashy & nasty as hell. KARMA will get back to him, and hopefully he is constantly raped in prison. 

Ok why anyone has mentioned how ugly this guy is?How did he get the hook up anyway? Oh you'd say he is black, he is top and he has a giant... caramel on his pocket.... not enought reason for me... Add someone at least in your facebook, dont hook up just cause you are horny at 2 a.m

Exactly, but the reality is that there are may size queens who all they care about is the size and that's it. Sorry, I need more than a big just a big one. Big d's are a dime a dozen, but the question is can you offer something else? 

IT IS REALLY SAD TO SEE SO MUCH HATRED STILL WHEN TWO PEOPLE'S LIVES HAVE BEEN TAKEN.  I AM PROUD TO BE PARTIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN EVEN THOUGH  MY MOTHER IS 3/4 NATIVE AMERICAN I STILL CONSIDER MYSELF AFRICAN AMERICAN.  HOWEVER IT REALLY IS SAD THAT THERE ARE SO MANY STEREO TYPES OF THE LGBT COMMUNITY.  I AM OPENLY GAY BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT STILL DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE MY CHOICE OF PROTECTION, HOWEVER THERE IS ENOUGH HATRED AGAINST US FROM THE HETEROSEXUAL COMMUNITY IT REALLY BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE OUR OWN LGBT COMMUNITY SHOW HATRED TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER.  NO MATTER WHAT WE DO AS AN INDIVIDUAL HERE ON THIS EARTH, IT IS ONLY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS TO EXPLAIN AND ANSWER.  I NEVER GO ANYWHERE THAT NOT FAMILIAR TO ME WITHOUT TAKING SOMEONE WITH ME UNLESS IT IS IN A WELL LIT HIGH TRAFFIC AREA.  SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED TO GROW UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE THIS IS THEIR WORLD.  IT'S ALREADY A CRUEL WORLD!!!

First I would like to give my condolences to victims families. We have to understand we take risk anytime we use any social outlet to meet some one for the first time. You only have your gut instinct to follow when meeting a complete stranger because you never know a persons intention, no they did not deserve to get murder no one deserves that but in this society it's best to not par take in social sites such as grindr

Or jackd . We live in a world where we have so many choices of meeting people now these days it's dangerous, scary , and exhilarating for some people. A person with bad intention is going to do harm no matter what race he or she is from. 

I cannot believe this thread. Your grammar is atrocious. Your words are vindictive, ignorant and downright stupid. I am ashamed to be from Seattle right now. How can this happen in a place so liberal and open minded? Apparently you are not all as enlightened as you like to think you are. The racist comments are ludicrous and only make matters worse. Blaming people for using dating apps is wrong as well. Straight people use dating apps just like gay people do and slut shaming gay men isn't going to solve anything. I seriously wish that you weren't such an ignorant lot of fools, but alas, there is nothing I can do about it besides hope to dear God that this man doesn't shoot me in New Jersey this weekend. 

I am a Chriatian woman and I am not bisexual or gay I have my beliefs but I am a firm believer that NO ONE deserves to murdered because of their sexual preference. Because you don't agree with something does not mean you have to kill the person. Let people live agree to disagree that is my motto. He was wrong for killing those men and I think awareness in a BIG way needs yo be pushed in the gay community bc people are do cruel and heartless.

It's not wrong to meet ppl off line. Me and my bf are happily together after meeting on grandr. What is wrong is this guy use a app made for homosexual to target them. It's just we as gay man & woman need to be more aware of the dangers that lay out there cause who we are. This guy is not the only guy out there like this. There is so many more like him out in the world. What these guy did hurts in so many ways. We are people too, not just some target to mark off. 

I pray for the victims & their families/Friends. My heart and tears goes out to them. 

Unfortunately, you play, you pay. Gay, straight, bi, tran. It doesn't matter.

I was dosed at the cuff this past pride weekend in my water bottle... Thankfully I don't drink, but honestly, it's not just hooking up you have to be cautious about. This is sad and unfortunate, and I hope the family is working through their loss. Community isn't what I would call the Seattle gay scene...it's more like the Hunger Games...we don't come together, we go after each other and allow our friends to put themselves in dangerous situations in stead of speaking up or helping. I'll never go back to it...none of them are worth it, especially after this and past experiences.

Bless the hearts of the families 

First of all, these racist comments are so not called for and need need to get a life!!! Second I am in a relationship with a fine ass African American man and this guy is not one!!! Peoples personal lives and choices are there business, but times have changed and you need to exercise extreme caution when meeting a stranger in our society now!!

Amen

Every one you meet for the first time is a stranger. Just be careful people. Deepest sympathy to all 3 families.

Stupid niggers! Go back to africa!

Oh look...another pussy ass little racist bitch who is to scared to use his name. Bet he still lives with mommie and daddy too

U NEED TO GET YOUR IGNORANT ASS OFF OF HERE.....THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF IGNORANCE AT THIS MOMENT AND SURE NOT THIS PLACE.  MY DEEPEST SYMPATHY AND CONDOLENCES GOES OUT TO THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS, BUT WE ALL AS HUMANS NEED TO BE MORE CAREFUL OF OUR SURROUNDINGS AT ALL TIMES.  GAY, STRAIGHT, BI, TRANS, WHATEVER NO ONE DESERVES TO BE TARGETED AND VICTIMIZED FOR WHOM THEY ARE.  IT IS REALLY SAD THAT SOCIAL MEDIA HAS TAKEN SUCH A BAD TOLL ON OUR SOCIETY TODAY.

You know you're wrong for posting that statement. That is why you signed "anonymous" The only people who truly belomg here are the native americans and that ain't you so take your stupid ass back to the land of your forefathers....the dark caves of Europe!!!

All black people aren't of African decent. Not all black people have even been to Africa in order to return or go back as you put it. This display of ignorance certainly makes you more of a nigger than anyone. 

Sad u are very Fuckin sad

What an immature, ignorant, rude statement. Grow up!

Ok really?? All that is uncalled for

Hey everyone, I have met people on grindr many times without having sex with them. Sometimes I've met people and had sex after a few dates on there. Just because they used that app does not mean they were going to have sex. Even if they were that does not mean they should be blamed for being murdered. There is nothing wrong with sex. It's only society which tells you that there is. For anyone out there who is blaming this on some racial aspect, you are a fool. I have encountered idiots of all shapes and skin tones.

You said all that and yet you still don't see their rresponsibility to self awarness. People put them selves in situations that can be avoided.. hooking up on sex sites as friends or for sex is disparate seeking for disparate

First I'm praying for the families of the deceased and that this monster is found. Now to all of you that keep saying they hooked up for sex stop your foolery.  Nowhere in this article does it say they hooked up for sex they met via a DATING APP.  Be it App or Website, church or club you still have the right to meet people whatever way without being murdered.  The real issue is that there is so much hate taught in churches and homes that people are finding it okay to murder people just because they are gay.  You need to remember who the victim is here.

Sorry, but... the apps in question are really never used for socializing, and rarely for dating. We all know they are hookup apps; they simply can't be described that way and be in Apple's App Store.

(Even if the purpose was a sex hookup... what difference does that make?!)

Thank you John for your statement b/c I was thinking the same thing. Hookup for sex was never mentioned. It was an Social App....This is the age of technology and EVERYONE uses them whatever your sexual preference. It is not ok for ppl. to just kill when ever they feel, get the urge, voices tell them too, WHATEVER! One more thing. If it was friends hooking up with an unsavory looking/acting person, I'm going to say something to my friend and go as far as making it my business to introduce myself to this character. Think about it. There are ppl. that can i.d. this guy, he knows this, and he doesn't care. It didn't even phase him.......Dude is ANGRY, prejudice, and God knows what else. He needs to be found (Jersey is very close to the Gayborhood in Philly. Remember the article,...He's hideing out (probably with like minded ppl.) and who's to say that he can't come here with reinforcments ?....And arrested, and put closer to the families!

Hooking up or not, murder happens. Let's not pretend that murders don't occur after people have dated for years. Family and friends have murdered folk. For me, it's more about going with your gut and bouncing the second you get that "hell no" feeling in your stomach.

And to all the haughty people on here shaming people for hooking up via apps or simply screwing on the first night...congratulations. You have lived a life far better than most people and we applaud you. #sarcasm #childplease #haveaseat

Sadly, this will continue to happen to women, gay men, & to sex workers until PHOTOGRAPHING STRANGERS ON THE VERY FIRST "DATE" BECOMES THE NORM.  

Afraid you're gonna look a little "UNCOOL", Mary?  Well, get over it.  

Take their picture IMMEDIATELY after meeting, store it in the cloud, send it to friends (if you need to), set limits, & proceed with caution.  

There can be some kind of built-in "I.D. MATCH" feature where you snap their picture and it's placed right next to their App face pic (& account info) for comparison.  

You can call it a "TROPHY PIC" (SCORE!), but it's really being done for SECURITY.  

I'd be very suspicious of ANY guy who is willing to post their pics online & fuck a complete stranger, but who "just don't want their picture taken." 

Survivors don't feel the need to apologize, victims do.  

That is an awesome idea. Anyone can murder anyone at anytime for any reason. Always be on guard. I think if they are willing to meet they should be willing to have their pic taken and texted to friends saying "Here is the guy Im out with right now" And also before you meet send your friends their info (screen name, phone number, the pics they sent u ahead of time, etc)

Men think they are safer than women when going off with a man. They are not.

Wow to be honest, I know there is a family mourning the death of their son. I feel that lots of gay men are so sex driven that they forget about themselves and get lost in the trill. I am a black gay man and I find it hard to understand the concept of loose gay black men. I could not think of meeting someone in a club moreless a sex site and go off with them. So in essence all the parties involved in this are stupid idoits that took chances with their life and reep the consequences of it.

OMG (PGF) WTF r u kidding me just because you live your life a certern way doesn't mean others will/should live theirs the same way as u do which by the way seems tasteless from where I'm standing (but who's judging) & until u step into some one's shoe to understand what's going on in their lifes then  & only then you might have the right to call them out 'loose gay black men' gawd your words are so ugly & your so judgmental towards others...Just waking up in the morning & walking out of your house is a chance your taking because you are facing the world of total strangers & you have no idea what motive people have in their minds/heart for you or others...just going on a bus, train, building there would be some random person with an axe to grind who wish to do harm to others & yourself & bang just like that it happens...I mean come on who are you fooling with this bullshit you running on with GTFOH & be real with your self. 

Self righteous prude

And what does being black have to do with anything?  Your post is completely ridiculous.  

So basically, they deserved to be murdered? That's what you're saying? Because they were "lost in the thrill?"

Why gays have to hook up on first night ? Respect your body mind and soul . This may not prevent a murder but im certain it will not be as many murders.

its not just gays every sexual type do it & not all GAYS so you put it have sex on the same night & just because some one have sex on the first night/date means they dont respect their mind, body & soul...come on the world is not black & white & it has never been its vivid & adventurous not every one is alike & will be alike...JUDGEMENTAL,JUDGEMENTAL at its best I swear you got to love people like yourself.

Sad thing is that people in general do this. It comes from lack of self respect and lack of family bonding with the issues that are infront of them. Lots of times black families dont understand gay society and it obvious by some of the comments that gay people sometimes don't understand whats wrong with the lives they live..... some say they use comdoms as safety. But who in their right frame of mind would trust a piece of elastic between life or death

You do realize, right, that the odds of infection for a single interaction is about 1 in 2000?

It isn't just gay people idiot. I know a lot of strait people who fuck on the first meeting. 

These ignorant people that are commenting are PATHETIC sad excuses for human beings!! 

Of course a NIGGER did this.

Ever notice that niggers look strikingly similar to the baboon at the local zoo with there BIG lip and BIG nostrils, nappy hair and dark leathery skin, and there jungle like violent behavior.

To the "Anonymous" Person who is posting rude and bigot comments? Please note, Everything is being reported.
 

Ugh, you're awful. I keep thinking I'm going to read a comment section that provides me with community and then I get this. Human beings are a horror. 

It's sad that there are still people like you walking around. You and your thoughts are just as dangerous as someone walking around with a 9mm.I just pray for you and your soul.

You are a racist!

And white people shoot up elementary schools colleges and movie theatres ... SHUT UP RACIST IDIOT

White pig shut the fuck up

You son of a bitch!!! This comment was very unnecessary & ungodly. We are all God's children. Please don't except to get into heaven doors with a mentality of the such. I'm a proud African American & I will definitely keep you & that family in my prayers. God bless

Ignorant people like you will keep this country behind. Take a look in the mirror. I bet you will see somebody that is unhappy and uses racism to make yourself feel good...

Hopefully somebody will kill you next.

He must have used a fake photo.  Who would want to meet this ugly animal?

That man is fine, by ANY standard...oh except a white one. #AmILying?

He is a horrible looking individual who is ugly enough to scare the dark out of a closet.

When I meet someone in public I make sure it's packed , and I'll follow you I don't need to ride with you and you don't need to ride with me Period. I text their license plates to that friend I know going to be up late night and a well detailed description of their attire !! My prayers goes out to their families at their time of heart ache !! 

You can do all of that and still get shot in the head. Ever thought of NOT hooking up w random off of Jac'd or Grinder? #NoShade #JustAThought

Yes, I tell my friends am still single I do not trust men I meet n bring them home, I have to get to know them a while get to know them well, n never leave from a place with someone u do not know.....

What a dumb ass. 

The amount of absolute insensitivity, and heartlessness you have just shown with that statement is astounding. A man has been brutally murdered, and you have the nerve to say that. It speaks volumes to your lack of character,  you are the dumb ass.

This is Nicolas Smith

Always tell someone who you are meeting. At least there will be a lead. Wont keep you alive but will provide a lead

"Yasss.. .she DEAD as fukc but least she left us a lead. She was SO smart. This so sad. R.I.P. gurrrl... n e way whatchu wearing 2 da club 2nite????" #ThotStruggle

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