Kathy Griffin Announces Breakup With Longtime Boyfriend!

Kathy Griffin Announces Breakup With Longtime Boyfriend!

As Always, She Goes Down Swinging!

Kathy Griffin has been saying it for us since the 90s. She’s been the talk of the town since the infamous “picture” scandal, you know- where she held up a faux-severed head of Donald Trump, but us- her gays, know her as one of the first celebrity allies to trailblaze for the LGBTQ community. While Griffin will always be in our hearts, I can’t help but feel hers may be a little broken after this latest announcement.

According to Twitter, Griffin has announced after seven years, her relationship with Marketer, Randy Bick, has ended. The couple lived together in her Bel Air, California home. Jeez, you’d think after the picture scandal, death threats, and harassing neighbors- Bick would’ve been the next one to put a ring on her finger! While Bick was eighteen years younger than her, I much preferred him to that greaseball of an ex-husband, Matthew Moline, who embezzled money from her as learned from Griffin’s memoir, Official Book Club Selection. At least with Bick, there’s no love lost. She claims she still, and always will, adore him. Alas, it looks like she’ll be enjoying the rest of her time with the company of family and friends compared to a man. Which, there’s nothing wrong with that anyway!

Of course, in true Griffin fashion, she takes a jab at her haters, especially TMZ’s Harvey Levin. She has been vocal on the alleged malicious habits of Levin since October 2017. Check out the tweet below:

Griffin definitely has her supporters…

And the trolls are out in full force…

Thankfully, Kathy will always have her gays! We love you! Call us if you need anything, Kath! West Hollywood is right down the stret!

Kathy Griffin VS. Tomi Lahren!

Kathy Griffin VS. Tomi Lahren!

Griffin Continues To Say It FOR Us!

Ahh! Kathy Griffin has long been one of my idols – even after the whole, photogate. It’s actually still surreal that Kathy freakin’ Griffin – the self-proclaimed D-List comedienne from the 90s – was one of the biggest threats to the current White House administration in the last two years. Seriously, it still baffles me how the nation decided to bury her. But, then again, I’m one of the people who still watch Griffin’s Emmy winning series, My Life On The D-List, repeatedly on YouTube when I need some inspiration or a pick me up. Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you know Griffin held up a faux-beheaded Donald Trump and blah blah blah. It’s old news. But, this doesn’t mean she’s decided to remain quiet. I mean, why would she?!

The latest…Influencer (?) to face Griffin’s Twitter wrath is Tomi Lahren, you know her as a Conservative Commentator who continues to face backlash for her opinions and words. While I stand with any woman – or person – speaking their mind, it’s obvious tons of people don’t agree with anything that comes out of Lahren’s mouth. She’s gotten harassed several times, even in West Hollywood, Caliornia where she is frequently interviewing gays on the street, which has not been okay. But, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a keyboard warrior and insulting someone online – right? I mean, it only hurts if you let it. By now, Lahren seems unfazed by any negativity thrown her way.

Lahren recently tweeted, of course, about the Obama administration – telling former First Lady of the United States, Michelle Obama, to “sit down” after Obama claimed America had a good President. Griffin was not having any of this and let her fingers do the talking. She tells Lahren to go F herself and how much of a horrible person she is. Check out Griffin’s tweet below:

Again, Lahren should be allowed to speak however the hell she pleases, but it is kind of comforting to know Griffin will always be here to…say exactly what we want to say. I mean, her old theme song did claim “I’ll say it for you”.

If you have yet to see Griffin’s incredibly moving visit at The Breakfast Club, I implore you to check out the video below. Seriously, it’s the best interview she’s done in years:

Kathy Griffin Flaunts Her Cutie Boyfriend And Takes it All Off

In a span of 48 hours, legendary comedian Kathy Griffin flaunted her hot as f**k boyfriend for the masses to enjoy and got totally naked outside of her pool... all on social media. In her world, as far as we see it, that's a pretty tame couple of days.

One of our favorite gay icons has made a sizable turnaround since the whole Trump mask fiasco that happened to her last May. Her Laugh Your Head Off World Tour has been a major hit for the 57-year old, as she's sold out iconic spaces over the past couple of months like Radio City Music Hall and Carnegie Hall in New York City.

A simple photo of Kathy with her much younger marketing executive beau Randy Bick caused a ton of commotion for her when she posted it on her Instagram Wednesday.



‪Deal With It ‬

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The caption from the post simply read "Deal With It," next to a nail-painting emoji. Her followers showered her with compliments about her amazing bikini bod and the hot dude standing next to her. Anyone who trolled what she was doing was pretty much shut down immediately.

As if that wasn't enough, Kathy took it all off in an effort to promote her upcoming shows. She playfully posed outside her pool while showcasing a bit of her backside, 



Werk. Werk. Werk. Werk. Werk Kathy. 


8 Ladies Yet To Be Impersonated On The Snatch Game!

8 Ladies Yet To Be Impersonated On The Snatch Game!

Check Out Our Picks For Who We Want To See!

#DRAGRACE! If you haven’t heard the buzz, the Snatch Game episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race was on yesterday. The Drag Queens did their diligence and as we’ve seen before, some exceled and some tanked. I’m still waiting for a Snatch episode to top the entertaining atrocity of season 4’s queens, but I digress. There’s loads of women – or flamboyant men – to impersonate in celebrity culture. After watching the new wave, I’m scratching my head wondering how we haven’t seen such powerhouse personalities on the Snatch Game! Like, when will the Queens realize we don’t want to see them impersonate other Drag Queens? That’s just…plain and simple stating someone in your craft is more famous than you are! Take a peek at my choices of arguably the best – and guaranteed safe choices – yet to be on:



Kathy Griffin

Seriously, how has no one done Kathy Griffin yet?! Do we even need to go on the tangent of how easy she would be? Talk about the Donald Trump photograph, her alcoholic mother, her gays! Griffin is fool proof and I’m so shocked no one has even thought about impersonating her.



Roseanne Barr

With the revival of Roseanne it seems effortless to do a screeching, Trump Supporting Roseanne Barr. All you’d have to do is be a sloppy, marijuana smoker and have at it. She’s so animated in appearance alone, you’d give a flawless performance.



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Rosie O’Donnell

Rosie O’Donnell would definitely be my choice if I would ever be forced to perform the Snatch Game. She’s crude, loud, a lesbian, and there can be so many cheeky Trump jokes and even, in the right taste, gags about her time on The View and her daughter abandoning her. Without question, this would be a hit.



Joy Behar

While we’re on the subject of The View – one of the greatest daytime talk shows – someone can essentially do Joy Behar in the same vein as O’Donnell and Barr. Be loud, have a ridiculous – iconic – head of hair, and some messy make up. Behar is a walking caricature and would translate into hilarity at any rate. Pay attention season 11 Queens!


Ina Garten

While season 3 saw Delta Work flawlessly nail Paula Deen, it appears that LGBTQ ally, Ina Garten (or the Barefoot Contessa), should be next in line. She may not be as comical as Deen, but chances are anyone can kindly impersonate her and won’t make an ass out of themselves as we’ve seen in seasons past.


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Meghan McCain

I have a soft spot for Meghan McCain, which I’m well aware is not popular opinion. I think she is incredibly intelligent and such a strong woman, however, she is so easy to make fun of. While her sense of humor wouldn’t take kindly to an exaggerated version of her; I’m pretty certain that’s the point of the Snatch Game! You could easily make an endless amount of jokes with her being Republican, almost the First Daughter of the United States, and interrupt nearly everyone on the rest of the panel. They’d all hate you, but if Melania Trump can gain someone a win – a McCain definitely would.



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Mariah Carey

How?! How has Beyonce been poorly done a thousand times over and no one has attempted the gift that keeps on giving: Mariah Carey?! These are over-the-top Drag Queens and no one has thought to do Carey?! The champagne, the darlingggg, the vocal frying of it all! If I don’t see her on next season, I’m done believing in creativity. Seriously, these people are choosing real housewives over real celebrities.

Gabourey Sidibe

If someone can flawlessly do Monique’s character of a horrible mother from the film Precious, why can’t someone actually do the titular Actress herself, Gabourey Sidibe? Sidibe has proven to be a sassy and kooky kid-in-a-candy-store. She’s always overly happy, constantly speaking about her weight, and is definitely someone you’ve known from high school. She would be so much fun to impersonate – and you’d probably even get a retweet from her!

Who do you want to see impersonated on the Snatch Game who hasn’t been done yet?!

Kathy Griffin Takes Back Her Apology for Trump Decapitation Photo

Kathy Griffin is taking back her apology almost a year to the day after she posted a photo of her holding a decapitated photo of President Donald Trump

The legendary comedian, who was present for the White House Correspondent's Dinner this past weekend (and had quite a lot to say about it, as seen on her epic Twitter thread), stopped by The View on Monday morning to discuss why she is rescinding her apology.

“I take the apology back. And the sons, Don Jr. and Eric,or as I call them, Eddie Munster and Date Rape (she spoke similarly of them in our exclusive interview here). Look, I’m not holding back on this family. This president is different. And I have been through the mill."

"I wanted to make a statement about what a misogynist he is," she continued. "And also I remember the eight years of the photos of the Obama lynching, and nobody said anything. Right? That was all okay. Facebook. That was all on Facebook. People were going to rallies with pictures of Hillary’s head decapitated at Trump rallies.”

See the rest of her interview here.  Do you think she is smart for rescinding her apology right as her career is doing another major 180?




In Defense of Kathy Griffin: The Hypocrisy of President Trump’s Misogynistic Bullying of the Comedy Queen

Make no qualms about it, President Donald Trump is a bully of epic proportions.  Anyone who criticizes or stands up to his policies becomes a target. Comedian and LGBT advocate Kathy Griffin found herself as public enemy number one for her searing political commentary on the Trump administration.  Her photo shoot for photographer Tyler Shields featuring the comedy queen holding the, obviously fake, blood soaked and decapitated head of President Trump caused quite the controversy. Griffin has since paid dearly for her outspokenness while 45 has remained smugly comfortable in his role as bully-in-chief.  It is quite baffling that one woman has been forced to pay the price for insulting a president that has used threats of nuclear annihilation against another country as diplomacy. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Following the incident, Griffin found herself being publicly chastised by the president and she took an unfair beating in the press.  Trump played the media against her like he was playing a violin. He conveniently used his family as human shields by exploiting his son Barron Trump and First Lady Melania Trump.  He claimed that Griffin’s photoshoot caused them irreparable emotional anguish, which seems a bit ironic considering he initially supported Syrian president Assad’s gassing of his own citizens, resulting in the unimaginably gruesome deaths of hundreds of children.  His much covered bareback sexual encounter (allegedly) with porn star Stormy Daniels seems more likely to have affected the first lady on a more painful level than Griffin’s photo shoot ever could have. Three words: pot-kettle-black.

Few public figures risked standing up in support of Griffin and she eventually found herself blacklisted from bookings and work in the United States.  Fearing any backlash that being associated with the comedy queen would bring following the controversy, few took the chance on hiring her. Fairweather friend Anderson Cooper distanced himself from Griffin and CNN fired her from hosting CNN’s NYE live telecast.  The network replaced her with snoozefest Andy Cohen; the result, trainwreck t.v. It was an awkward telecast that, without Griffin, lacked the charm, excitement, and ‘oh no she didn’t’ moments that once elevated the broadcast to must see t.v. The result was a splinter of retribution for Griffin and a missed opportunity for CNN.  President Trump effectively silenced Griffin and the time and energy he used to target her speaks volumes.

Misogynistic threats against women seem to be President Trump’s calling card and its women who bear the brunt of his attacks; just ask San Juan mayor Carmen Yulin  Cruz. The president, who was safely playing golf at one of his resorts, attacked the mayor as she was literally wading through waist deep flood waters with megaphone in hand trying to save the lives of Puerto Ricans after Hurricane Maria devastated the island.  She spoke out demanding assistance for the battered island and its residents; of which the Trump administration offered very little. The verbal tongue lashing Cruz received at the hands of Trump was indicative of her being a strong female of color.  Griffin joined the likes of  Carmen Yulin Cruz, Rosie O'Donnell, Megyn Kelly, Arianna Huffington, Mika Brzenzinski, Bette Midler, and Hillary Clinton who all found themselves targets of his disturbing vitriol.  The Trump administration has also gone out of its way to chip away at women’s rights and gender equality. It is evident that Trump simply can’t handle women calling his bull shit out and he is intensely intimidated by strong women who are not afraid of his bullying tactics.  

Griffin withstood the firestorm she endured at the hands of President Trump and things seem to be picking up for the comedian.  It was just announced that she had booked upcoming shows at Carnegie Hall in New York City and at the Kennedy Center in Washington D.C.  Her comedy tour is picking up more dates within the United States and there has been ‘talk’ of her return to daytime television. This is welcome news for fans of Griffin who have missed their favorite ‘diva’ over the past year.  Trump underestimated Griffin and will eventually learn that he never should have bet against her. She is poised to ‘come back’ bigger and better than ever, with an arsenal of Trump jokes to entertain her millions of fans. As Griffins star begins to rise again, Trump will have those ‘pesky’ indictments to look forward to.  One thing is for sure, the gays are eagerly anticipating Griffin's return with bated breath think “Diva, what are you doing?” Ball is in your corner Ms. Griffin and rightfully so.


Kathy Griffin Calls Gus Kenworthy a 'Cub' or a 'Daddy'

Decorated Olympian Gus Kenworthy got a little confused when it came to a popular publication calling him a "twink" recently.

Out Magazine, who just profiled both him and fellow Olympian Adam Rippon, tweeted a photo of the two of them on Thursday while previewing their interview that discusses the two's friendship and a myriad of other topics. 

"@Adaripp and @guskenworthy aren't just two twinks looking for the next camera — they are role models taking aim at inequality," the tweet read.  This made Gus super confused.

"I'm a twink?" he questioned.  Luckily, comedian and all-around hilarious human being Kathy Griffin came in to set the record straight regarding what Gus really is.

Gus got in on all the hilarity in all of this, as he replied:

The shade fest regarding the twink vs. daddy comment came from several others, notably Rosie O' Donnell who called Kathy out regarding her current status in life:

And Kyle Krieger told Gus that his question left out some key words:

Regardless, Gus is a superbly handsome human being regardless if he's a cub, twink, daddy or any other adjective.  Just see below:

Who Would Kathy Griffin Save From Death: Andy Cohen or Anderson Cooper?

Kathy Griffin has let her opinions be heard about several different people in and out of the entertainment industry (take a look at our exclusive we did with her last month for a taste of that), however two punching bags that she seems to get a thrill out of shading recently is her former boss Andy Cohen and her former best friend Anderson Cooper.

Andy, who was Kathy's boss during her time on Bravo's My Life on the D-List and her talk show that aired in the early 2010's, wasn't exactly cherished by the legendary comedian.  She went on a 17-minute rant about him and TMZ's Harvey Levin back in October.  During that video, she said that he was a "miserable boss", made allegations about his drug use and said that he (alongside Harvey) lived to take women down. 

At the same time, she and Anderson had a major falling out after the whole Trump photo situation, where he shaded her on social media and essentially chose career over friendship in the process.  This became a big topic of conversation on social media when Andy replaced Kathy to host CNN's New Year's Eve, which was universally panned as a result.

Kathy decided to keep her shade about the two of them going, as she appeared on Howard Stern's talk show earlier this week.  The legendary radio host asked her a simple question about them: "If you had to save Anderson Cooper's life, or Andy Cohen's life, who do you choose at this point?"

"I would let them both die," Kathy quickly retorted.  Not shocking at all.

What are your thoughts on Kathy's response? 


Comedic Legend Kathy Griffin Gets a Shocking Political Invite

Comedian Kathy Griffin, who we profiled earlier this week for our gay icon series (more of that fantastic interview here), will come face to face with the man who made her life an absolute living hell over the past year (allegedly): Donald Trump, if he actually shows up.

Kathy tweeted on Friday that she has received an invitation to the White House Correspondents Dinner on April 28th.  What's even better is that she is a guest of two major LGBT publications: Washington Blade and Los Angeles Blade.



Kathy has had quite the year since she posed for a photo holding a bloody mannequin head made to look like Trump was released.  Her career suffered greatly as she lost several of her gigs in the states and lost her gig doing CNN's New Year's Eve with her former friend Anderson Cooper.

Something that Kathy has made very clear, however, is how her undying support of the LGBT community has not wavered, so it comes as no surprise that she will be attending this event with two major journalism forces that highlight the struggles and accomplishments for all of us to read.

It's something that has bled into her career as well, as she highlighted in our recent interview with her just how amazing the LGBT community has been to her and how she's helped many be their authentic selves in the process.  "It’s interesting to me, because several people have come up to me and say, “Watching your show helped me come out," she revealed.  "I think it’s fascinating, because honestly to me, I’m just doing comedy and I’m trying to get my little social messages out there when I can, and obviously I’ve done quite a hell of a job with that the past year."

Trump didn't show up to this event in 2017, and given how much he mocks the media on a daily basis, it's almost assumed that he won't show up to this one... but you never know.

Congrats to Kathy on her invite! 


Instinct Magazine Exclusive: One on One with Our Eternal Gay Icon Kathy Griffin

It was a pretty easy decision to choose who our next subject would be for our Gay Icon series, as she definitely exemplifies that phrase in more ways than one.

Kathy Griffin, to put it lightly, is a f***ing badass.  She has been one of the gay community's most endearing and passionate supporters before it even became cool to hang with us.  From her days in the early 80's where she would perform at local gay bars all the way to going through one of the most insane experiences anyone can imagine over the past year, Kathy has still had our back through and through.

This past year challenged Kathy in ways that millions of people will never truly understand, but her resilience has kept her head firmly above the water, and now, she's preparing to head back "home" in so many ways with the United States and Canada leg of her world tour called Laugh Your Head Off.

It's something that clearly has touched her in many ways, as her show at the world famous Carnegie Hall sold out in a day.  Her response? "I'm in shock. For most of the past year I was convinced that my career was over...I have felt moments of despair that I can't describe in a tweet. Thank you from the bottom of my heart...I am so grateful."  No... thank you Kathy, because we are still here for you.  We'll always be here for you.  

In the midst of all the chaos in Kathy's life, including preparations for her upcoming tour, she was nice enough to sit down with me and discuss her undying love and support for the gay community.  She even threw in a hilarious joke about her best friend Joan Rivers, how she's loved the gay community ever since she was a kid, why we need to be as alert as possible right now with the current administration, and oh, so much more.  Buckle up, because this will be a bumpy yet fun and incredible ride. 

Thanks for taking time to talk with me Kathy, you actually caught me right at the end of one of my quickie Grindr sessions.

It’s funny you say that, and I know I’m going off topic already, but I must tell you this story.  So, one time when I was 40 years old I was banging this new guy.  When you’re a lady, sometimes you get too enthusiastic and you get pain in your no-no parts.  So I was on tour in New York and I called Joan Rivers, and said “This is so embarrassing, I have an 8 o’clock curtain and my vagina is on fucking fire because I banged this guy four times last night and I’m so embarrassed to be calling you.  Do you have an OBGYN recommendation where I can go get a freaking antibiotic? My vagina is killing me, I shouldn’t have fucked that guy so much!”  Then there was a pause, and Joan goes like this, “Isn’t it fabulous?”, so you just reminded me of that, I had to share that with you.

Well, I haven’t had to call the doctor yet, however the day is young.

But I just thought that was such a wonderful attitude.  To be still naughty at whatever age and say… “Isn’t that fabulous?”  So, what’s going on, how can I help you?  I want to get you excited about this tour.

I’m very excited about the tour.  The reason why we reached out is because we are doing a series for Instinct Magazine called “Gay Icons”.  People who are living of course…

Oh yeah, I saw the Belinda Carlisle one, it was great!

Thank you!  You were one of the first people we thought of as we’ve been fans of yours for over twenty years now, and we know what a massive supporter you’ve been for the gay community overall.

Awe, thanks!

The first question I want to ask you is at what point did you personally realize that you had a major gay following in the gay community?

I realized early on when I was doing open mic night.  I was so desperate to get on stage when I moved to California, because I moved there from Chicago when I was 18, that I, and this is for real, I would drag my parents to come try to cheer me on.  Sometimes, I would bomb for three or five minutes at a comedy club and the I realized very early on that whatever I was doing was a little off the beaten path.  I wasn’t doing well in comedy clubs or traditional settings, and yet I would find a lot more freedom when I started doing gay clubs.

So, while I was, and honestly any kind of performance space that would have me, the funniest thing was, if there were gay clubs with open mic nights, I would do whatever they were having.  Like, if it was song night, I would drag my parents down there, and I would do… you want to hear the songs I would do because I was so desperate for stage time?

Of course!

A, I’m a terrible singer.  So, my parents had to listen to me trying to be famous and think I was a triple threat.  Imagine, I guess it would be the early 80’s- myself, this was at least one nose ago, my poor parents from Illinois, who would say, “Oh my god, these gays are very colorful, I like them!”, and then watching their daughter sing, wait for it, this was my song combo ... the Glen Campbell song “Wichita Lineman” …

Wow! Classic.

Oh yea, big gay hit!  And then, I would try to sing, this is so embarrassing, I don’t know if you even know this song.  It’s a song Liza Minnelli sings, “But the World Goes ‘Round” and it’s from the film New York, New York. It’s so hard that Liza can barely sing it, and she’ll even admit that.  I don’t know what came over me.  I guess I thought I was some belter, so at some gay club I was like “AND THE WORLD GOES AROUND AND AROUND” and I could see these queens put their hands over their ears.  And then I started telling jokes in between my horrible singing, and eventually I was able to do open mic nights where I was able to do comedy.

As far as my relationship with the community, honestly, it really does go back to grade school.  Looking back, I just connected with that one gay kid in the class.  We sat together, we were outcasts, and we would start every morning like in our day they would put four desks together, which was kind of smart actually because it would force kids to sit together, and well, I’ll just say this… that was my first gay.

I know I’m not supposed to say “my gays” anymore, but the reason why I like to say  “my gays” is because I’ve been hanging out with gay guys so long that I remember when the word wasn’t gay, it began with an f, and then it went to homosexual, and then it went to gay, and then I started having a lot of gay friends saying “I want to be one of your gays”, and all that stuff.  And when I say that to this day, and I now do a disclaimer in my show because everyone is so fucking sensitive, I always say I understand how it would come across as offensive when I would say “Where are my gays” and I had someone go “We’re not handbags, you don’t own us!” and I’m like “Calm down, girl.”

It’s just a way of saying, after decades and decades of doing shows where gay people might be coming to my show and they might be nervous frankly.  If I was doing a show in Knoxville, and the gay guys that would show up would look around and see that one guy is with his wife from the office, it would worry me that I was outing people for just coming to my show.  Anyway, I just had a connection with the community since I can remember.

And then in high school, it was that typical thing where nobody would ask me to homecoming or prom.  So, I would get together with one of the boys who I was in some musical with, once again going back to the bad singing.  I mean look, I was a Will & Grace’r since first grade and I always have been!

That’s fantastic.  Going off that, do you have a particular moment with a fan who identifies as LGBT that stands out more than the rest?

Yeah, it means the world to me when someone says, “Watching your specials got me through a hard time.”  It’s interesting to me, because several people have come up to me and say, “Watching your show helped me come out.”  I think it’s fascinating, because honestly to me, I’m just doing comedy and I’m trying to get my little social messages out there when I can, and obviously I’ve done quite a hell of a job with that the past year. 

But, that means a lot because obviously I identify with that.  It reminds me of like, ok, we can work together because I just identify with disenfranchised people, and the LGBT community is so layered and there’s been so much progress made, yet there’s so much work to do.  And I’m sure, like you, I’m optimistic about the community, and then I have days with this administration where I get very worried. 

I think my relationship with the community is very genuine because I’m 57 and already have ridden several waves within it like testifying on the hill for the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, and one of the most touching moments I’ve ever had happened to be was when I was in a chow hall in Afghanistan.  

I talked about this in one of my specials a while back.  I would go sit in the chow hall sometimes, just to have a more casual environment with the troops instead of being on stage.  And, it’s funny when I think about it, but I’m sitting there at the chow hall, and this one “gaymen”, and I’m going to call him “gaymen”, comes up to me and say “Diva! What are you doing here?” And, it was so funny because the guy to my left goes like this, “He’s gay.” And I was like, “Oh, I never would have known that.” So, half an hour later, it’s me, in a chow hall in Afghanistan, surrounded by eight gay guys and we’re just gossiping. We’re not talking about the war, and I thought, you know what, if I can provide them an hour of gay love and gay comedy for an hour in Afghanistan, then that’s fucking meaningful.

Do you feel as if the situation that happened with that infamous photo of you with the fake Trump head put you on a much different “D-List”, and how have you been able to get through that over the past year?

Oh yeah, I mean the situation that happened to me, you know on May 30th when that picture was released, it’s actually historic. I’m really excited about these select shows coming up.  And I’m not doing a whole tour, I don’t want people to think “Oh, I’ll keep waiting to buy tickets, she’ll come to my town,” no.  I definitely am not in a place where I can go anywhere I want in America, still.  Believe me, not by a long shot.

I think the way to get through it, I mean I went through it in the most awkward way, it was all out there, all the shit I took … but I think that’s the part that I enjoy turning into a comedic story, and that’s frankly why I’m really proud of my current show, because it’s actually a little different.  Overseas, I did 15 countries and 23 cities, and my show ballooned to 3 hours, I don’t have an opener.  It’s an evening WITH, honey, trust me. 

There was probably a ten-minute section where I describe the actual interrogation by the feds, and you can hear a fucking pin drop.  Hopefully I have waves and little jokes in there to make it funny, but I feel it’s Important to tell the story because what happened to me is historic, and never in the history of the United States, ever, has a sitting president used the power of unfortunately his Twitter, which has now become the most powerful television programming apparatus in history.  Every time the guy tweets, it’s all over cable news, and sometimes they even break into network news.  So, obviously, that was damaging, extremely damaging.

Then, he used the family to pile on, so he fans out the two horrible sons: Eric and Donald Jr. And then it was all over Fox and Daily Caller and all the alt-right shit, and then you know, two days later, the Department of Justice calls, and The White House and Jeff Sessions, and like I said for the first time in history, put an American citizen under a two-month investigation for conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States.

Trust me, none of the guys, like Johnny Depp or Snoop Dogg didn’t get in trouble, he’s not gonna take on them.  I actually enjoyed telling that part of the story because I really do believe, especially when I’m speaking to gay audiences and people of color and anyone who is disenfranchised in any way, I really believe, trust me, this could happen to you.  I’m nervous about the community in a way that I haven’t been in maybe 25 years.  You know what I mean?  We have so much work to do, so one of the things that I like doing about the show and one of the things I’m enjoying about the real-life activism that’s taking over, is I think we can all kind of work in tandem.

One of the ways I got through it was to become a lot more active, and one of the things I resented is that as the fallout of my Trump photo was rolling out, I call it the “wall of shit falling on me”, I just started thinking, you know I really feel this message needs to get out.  I want people to know that whether you like that picture or not, there is nothing illegal about it. 

And, no citizen should be under anything resembling a two-month investigation from, you know, the dog catcher much less Jeff Sessions, who, can I just say, like, I remember growing up as a kid in Illinois, and as a kid we used to joke about Jeff Sessions like, being a freaking Klan member.  When he joined the Trump campaign, and the first time I saw Jeff Sessions at a rally, I swear to god, I turned to my boyfriend, and I go, “I’m going to be honest, I thought he was dead.” I feel like this administration is practically rising like taking people from the dead and putting them in the cabinet. 

So, activism is really inspiring, and I think it’s a great time for the gay community to get together with everybody, you know what I mean.  It’s everything from the Parkland kids to the #metoo and I think there’s a feeling of activism that’s turning into something positive. 

And I always say this, and my female friends get mad at me sometimes, but I go “Ladies, we have to learn from the gays!”  Women, and I’m just going to say this, and I know they are going to get mad at me, we are not good at sticking together and mobilizing and legislating and actually getting things done and the LGBT community does that.  So, you know, women unfortunately, we get caught up in our own infighting, which is also one of my missions I want to work on, but the gay community I feel like  historically, you know, long before Stonewall, when the chips are down, the gays know when its time to fucking get together and actually take action. 

That’s another reason why I’ve stayed connected to the community.  I don’t want to just sit around and bitch, I want to get up and do something.  In addition to doing this comedy tour, which I’m loving, I would also love to do a speaking tour.  One where I could just sit down with an LGBT studies professor and talk specifically about the Trump experience and the investigation and all this shit I’m still going through and walk people through that process.  Because, as unique as it seemed for me, there are parts of what happened to me that are happening to verbally non-celebrities all over. 

And so, I think we’re all kind of in this together now, which in a way is a bit positive because we talk about how divided we are, and the good part is things are so fucked up now, I actually think there’s a lot of good groups kind of coming together. So, I just want to give a little optimism that way as somebody who’s been doing this forever and literally knocking on doors with a clipboard saying, “Do you think gay people should be getting married?” and have people slamming the door in my face or invite me inside for coffee.  I think it’s kind of encouraging that people are realizing now that activism isn’t just liking a picture on fucking Facebook, it’s everything.  It’s everything out there, it’s talking, it’s petitions, it’s marching, it’s showing up in offices so that’s the part where I want gay people to feel optimistic because I can only imagine, and having played every city in America at this point, I very much know, I mean when I would do book signings and I mean I joke about this, because I always make a joke out of everything its my disease, but you know, I’m very familiar honey with doing these book signings in South Carolina and a gay guy comes up and says “Girl… I just love you and I love this book so much, I’m so glad you came to South Carolina,” pause, “This is my wife Dorleen,” pause. “Oh… you’re wife?” And, you know, the wife is like 500 pounds because he hasn’t touched her since their wedding night, but they love the lord.

And so, I’m just saying, like having done this for so long, I’m actually aware of when you go different places, and you talk to different people, you know, there’s still reasons that guys can’t come out in this country, and there’s still many, many pockets.  What I always say to my friends in New York and LA, as I’m always like “Calm the fuck down, there’s a whole country out there.”  People that can be out and proud is fucking amazing.  But you have to also have empathy for all the gay folks or whatever letter you want to pick, that are sitting in their town or their job thinking “I don’t know if I can be out, I really don’t” That’s always something in the back of my mind.  I’m sorry, that was a long, rambling answer, I have no idea how you are going to cut this together.

That’s ok, I’ll figure it out when I’m having my third lunch of the day because I like to eat.

Ha! I also believe that one of the reasons that the gay community and I kind of have a natural connection is, if you talk to somebody who has been a comedian as long as I have, there really are different kinds of audiences.  There really are.  I mean I’ve done corporate gigs and colleges and I’ve done Pridefests outside. I mean, frankly, my last performance before the Trump photo was at the New York AIDS Walk in Central Park.  Carson Kressley introduced me, and I did a few minutes and then three days later that “wall of shit” fell on me. 

By the way, I’ve done, get ready, twelve gay cruises.  One of my dreams is that I would love to do a comedy special on a gay cruise.  I think it’s just a window into the parts of the culture that I just happen to find fascinating, especially when they have theme parties like Gods and Monsters except every single gay is dressed like Walter White in assless chaps.  That’s kind of always been my message is always trying to infuse things with humor, but then if I’m actually learning something along the way, I want to throw that in. 

That’s why this whole Trump thing is kind of coming around in a way where people are finally understanding through this crazy news cycle like if they are even aware of my little Trump thing, it’s almost like if somebody would give me five minutes to explain it, and this is what I really enjoyed about doing the 23 shows overseas, I like that moment where people’s jaws are dropping.  Because I want them to know, “yeah, this is how fucked up this administration is,” but especially how backwards they are.  And as a woman I’m scared, and I’m talking to many of my gay friends who are scared in a way that they weren’t two years ago.

I always talk about my age, because I’m very proud of it, and I want to say, at 57 years old you guys, I’ve played one tour three years ago where I did 80 American cities. So, I really enjoy adjusting my material to where I’m going, and I can tell within the first five minutes if the audience is half gays, or a third gay, and I roll with it.  And I can also tell when I’m in certain markets where I might have gays in the audience who aren’t able to be like “Woo, hey girl!” And so, I’m always trying to be sensitive to that too.

I wanted to ask you about your tour in the States and Canada.  How does it feel for you to be “home” in so many ways?

You know, I’m just going to be honest, the thing is my little Trump story is still going on.  The Hollywood Blacklist is kind of what I’m living now.  I did the Bill Maher show last Friday, my first appearance on American television in over a year, which for me is a long time because I’m usually hocking something on some talk show or I’ve had three television series with my name in the title and now I can’t get a television job to save my life.  I can’t even meet with people for a special.  Keep in mind, I’ve done 20 televised specials, and three that were audio, one of which won a Grammy. 

So, believe it or not, I’m still dealing with the fallout because I get on the cover of The Hollywood Reporter, and I’m thinking “OK, maybe things will turn around, maybe my own industry will have my back, and I still don’t have a gig, babe.” So, I can put myself on the road, but that’s not something I need permission to do.  Luckily, thank god, I’ve at least built a tour business that’s been so long, and my fans know that if they saw me a year ago or five years ago or ten years ago… they are getting a brand new two hours.  I am nothing else if not prolific, but on the other hand, I don’t want to go on The View

I don’t need or deserve a beatdown from the fucking View right now.  I have been through something that TV hosts can’t fucking imagine.  So, I think that’s one of the reasons why the Bill Maher appearance actually ended up being so positive for me, because I was only able to explain one tiny, tiny part of it.  Even Bill, when I was talking to him that night on the phone, like he started crying.   I’m like, “Bill, are you crying?”, and he’s like “This is horrible, Kathy.  I didn’t know, I thought you just took a picture that Trump tweeted”, and I’m like “No Bill, it’s still going on.” So, for me it’s a big deal to be able to hit the road, but trust me honey, I am only going to friendly cities where I’m not going to get shot on stage and, you know, I’m dipping my toes back in because it’s been really, really radical and really extreme.  It’s been fucking nuts.  And I don’t want it to happen to anyone else. 

In fact, if I could have my dream show, you know what I would do? I would have a show like that Leah Remini show, that scientology one?  Oh, I love it! I would love to do a show where like season one, I do my story, and it’s almost like the D-List where it’s like, whatever, ten episodes of all the crazy shit I’m going through.  But then, the following season, I get to find other people that have suffered this kind of crazy, out of the blue, “Trumpian” oppression, obviously gay folks, etc.  And kind of help them or expose their story so maybe they can get help. 

And of course, I would like to do another special, and another series… I want to do it all.  I have much more comedy in me, but I do just want to say, if I could ask you to just put one thing in this article, it would be to all those who have supported me, and let me tell you, I have no qualms saying about this. It was absolutely the gay community, by far, and I’m just going to say it: women… not so much.  My own industry, not at all.  The “power gays” in my industry… nobody listed a finger.  But the actual community was there from minute one.  The minute someone sent me a video, like a week after the picture, of gays in Fire Island all dressed up as me with homemade Trump heads, some out of pumpkins, I just was like “God damnit, the drag queens are on the frontlines again!”

Of course, that’s another reason that on this tour, you know, I’m not just going anywhere, I want to go where the gay folks who have been reaching out to me via social media or whatever and have been saying “Please come here.” So, trust me, I have done a shit ton of analytics, like I’ve never done this before.  I have a company do all my analytics, and I’m only going to go where people want to hear the story.  And it’s like the country is divided, and right now, and I don’t have to tell you this, people either love me or hate me. 

So, in conclusion, how does it feel to be called a true gay icon, not only by our publication but from our community?  And will you wear this badge of honor as a crown of sorts for this accomplishment?

Well, I don’t mean to be rude, but can I at least get a fucking T-shirt? Can you just have one made up?

I’ll definitely talk to my people and get back to you on that.

Thank you!  By the way, I would love it if you could actually send Instinct Magazine t-shirts.  I would loudly and proudly wear them all over, I’m serious.

We would love that too, trust me!

Oh honey, listen, this old bird knows what she’s doing.  I’ll wear it, and then walk down a street where maybe there happen to be paparazzi.  That’s my thing, that’s my thing.  But you didn’t hear that from me.

First, I wouldn’t call myself a gay icon, because you know my mom, she would say “Don’t be so god damn high and mighty! I’ll tell you when you’re an icon: when you’re dead, god damnit!” And so, just so you know, Maggie still keeps me grounded.  But of course, I couldn’t be more honored because like I said this is our community.  I just feel like it’s truly an honor, and I also feel like reenergized within the community because, like I said, we’re not starting over but this is one of those phases where we’re fucking getting reenergized.  Whatever was that moment in the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s and 90’s, we’re there again.  I don’t want to say we are going back to grids, but you know what honey, we might. 

This administration really, really frightens me about LGBT rights, so I think it’s good that we all get in the mindset of sticking together, not letting them divide us, and knowing that at any moment we may have to do something big, medium or small. 

I think the exciting thing is we are in a real moment of activism and I am thrilled to be there, and I will participate in any way you guys want me to. 

After the interview was over, I had the chance to tell Kathy that she is not only one of the community's biggest gay icons, but one of mine personally and I shared a story on how she helped this gay guy get through a really tough time.

I have to tell you quickly before this interview ends, because I wanted to tell you this beforehand, that I just want to thank you personally for what you’ve done in your career.  Because in 2004, I lost my mother to cancer, and a lot of your specials and your shows was a major distraction and a good distraction for me after that.  So, I know you are going through a lot right now, but I just wanted to tell you that personally because you were a very big help for me in those years and still are to this day as a way to just laugh and realize that there are funnier things and not to take things too seriously in life, so just wanted to tell you that.

Just, a quick question, because I’m doing an informal survey, when your mom passed away, do you feel like humor was an important thing to get you through it?

Yes, humor and things that were a really good distraction for me to make me realize that life was worth going on.  Because, for a while there, I questioned it, a lot, especially being gay and having the whole “faith” issue that we have as gay people, but your humor helped me just normalize things for myself and not have her death on my mind 24/7 all day long.  So, I just want to thank you for that.

I think the way you use the word “normalize” is really, really smart.  And, if you don’t mind, I’m going to steal that from you, but I’ll give you credit.  I’ll say, “I got this from Ryan at Instinct Magazine,” by the way, just so you know I’m very big on that.  You got me really excited, because as you know that word “normalize” is one of those words almost like “free speech” where “free speech” is supposed to mean, frankly, what I do.  But now the alt-right wants free speech to be like Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopolous and all that shit. So, that’s part of their game. 

Same with the word “normalizing,” I think what you’ve inspired me about, and what’s so cool is, you are correct.  I think if I can do anything, it’s to “normalize” things in the gay community to, like I said, decades of cities where I cannot tell you, not so much now obviously but earlier in my career but still sometimes now, I cannot tell you how often a guy comes up to me at a show and says “I’m not able to be out, but I was so happy to be myself tonight.” And, if there is anything I would be proud of, it would be “normalizing” gay whatever, anything.  Anything from a joke I made, like I had gay Super Bowl, and I love doing #gaysuperbowl and Snapchatting it and stuff like that, and that’s what I’ve always enjoyed doing. 

So, that’s the highest compliment is to say that I “normalize” the community.  Like, Jane Lynch gave me the highest compliment one time, she said “Kathy Griffin was hanging out with the gays before it was cool.”  And I was like, “Well, it’s always cool.”  But I think you are right, normalizing simply the normal existence of the community is something that this country has really struggled with.  And I think it’s important to take that word back to the meaning it should have which is gay life should be normalized… because it’s normal!

So, I think it’s important we make that distinction as opposed to when we bitch about journalists normalizing the president’s craziness.  I’m actually going to bring that up the next time I perform.  Normalizing means acceptance, embracing, and that’s what it’s supposed to be, and there’s a good way to do it, which is the way we do with the gay community and the way we are working on it with women and minorities and #metoo’s, and then there’s this other “normalization” which is kind of a little different.  So, I think that you really hit the nail on the head, because the more the world can “normalize” the gay community, the more we are all going to be united and that’s always been one of my goals. 

I’m proud that my show has straight couples and gay couples and “Will & Grace”-ers and married couples where the girl dragged the husband and at the end of the show the husband will come up to me and say, “You know I never met a gay person before I came to your show,” to which I’ll respond with “Really, do you go to church?”

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