Brown revealed he met with Karen Pence and her chief of staff to “discuss arts but also speak about LGBT issues.”
Brown clarified that while the second lady didn’t tell him she’s a fan directly, some of her staffers told him she is a fan of the show.
In the interview, hair expert Jonathan Van Ness was too quick to interject once the Pences became a part of the conversation. “She’s our biggest fan,” said Van Ness. She watches it every night. Her and dad like to watch it every night in their modesty outfits. But they watch it completely separated because it’s improper to look at each other face to face when you watch gay men.”
“There’s something about the Pences, I just freak out,” Van Ness said as Brown tried to elaborate. “She doesn’t like you, girl! She don’t like us.”
“No matter if someone has personal feelings about my sexuality or how they view me,” Brown said. “It’s all of our job to continue to show up in spaces where we can say, ‘You know what? I can figure out how to try to work with you.’ ”
Van Ness apologized for his interruptions at the end of the video interview. “I’m sorry I made fun of the Pences so much,” he said. “I’m sure you guys are like, super nice.”
Mike Pence is, of course, notoriously anti-gay. He has repeatedly voted against anti-hate crime legislation in Congress, and he’s expressed support for amending the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. Pence also has allegedly expressed support for conversion therapy in the past. And his on-again off-again spat with Olympian Adam Rippon is a always entertaining.
It looks like the video interview we’re quoting has been removed or made private on YouTube. Here’s more of the interview with Vulture, but with no naming names. The second season of Queer Eye is now streaming on Netflix.