We covered Davey Wavey's "Show Some F*cking Respect To Older Gays" and the responses you gave were really great. It seems now a blogger from the Huffington Post felt the need to respond to Davey Wavey's Anti-Ageism rant.
Dear Mr. Wavey,
From one Davey (actually, I stopped calling myself that around age 12) to another, hello from the other side of 35. Can we have a long-distance talk about ageism and looksism among gay men?
Yesterday on Twitter, and then several times on Facebook, I saw headlines linking to a new video you made. Being a gay man who occasionally writes about LGBT interests, your moniker, face and Baywatch-ready pectoral projections are not new to me. I've seen countless Davey Wavey videos promoted by countless LGBT sites and blogs over the years, and I've watched a few of them, usually finding myself wondering why.
Towleroad's headline, "Davey Wavey wants you to show some f*cking respect to older gay men — WATCH," was irresistible for this older gay man, being 37 years old and therefore essentially ghosted by the greater gay community of Washington, D.C. about seven years ago. I admit I was equally intrigued by the topic and the headlined weirdness of someone who calls himself "Davey Wavey" defending older people.
"That creepy old gay man that looks like Santa Claus and the people in his generation are literally — literally! — the only reason that you can walk down the street in your pink [bleep] tank top and not get your ass beat," you say. "It is because he fought, and marched, and sweat, and rallied, and stood up so that the world that you live in is better than the world that he grew up in."
Mr. Wavey, please accept my heartfelt appreciation for your words. They are, in my opinion, obvious observations that are too rarely discussed — despite a relative abundance of LGBT media outlets.
Now can we discuss your actions, and how they undermine those words?
Over the years, I've become accustomed to seeing links to your videos, almost always with screen shots of your unclothed torso, and sometimes more. These are accompanied by such headlines as "How to Gay Cruise," "7 Things You Don't Know About Porn," "Are Virgins Hot?" and "I'm a Boy-Crazy, Teenage Girl…" In the last of these, you are bare chested as usual and you discuss meeting a "really beautiful, blond YouTuber who I've probably masturbated to for, like, the last two years of my life." In case we think you are kidding, you emphasize, "I have masturbated to him." You go on to relate yourself to a teenage girl.
I don't say this to be mean, but all of your videos are as narcissistic as anything offered to the world by any Kardashian, made of paradoxically thoughtless thoughts that orbit around a conventionally attractive face and body. I don't have much of an opinion on the Kardashians, but as everyone loves to talk about the family and do so with resentment, Kim and all the K girls are a useful reference: a lot of women feel that the Kardashian women are diminishing to them by being the very fulcrum of popular culture built upon a foundation of Kim Kardashian's sex tape and Kim Kardashian's stunning facial features and big butt. – huffingtonpost.com
He's just getting started folks! Go over to the rest of Connor's response here at the Huffington Post.
I have a handful of friends and acquaintances that have been friends with Davey Wavey before they had hair down there. They're pretty livid, I mean LIVID about Connor's response, but that is the beauty of the internet. A monkey with a computer can have a blog (insert foot). In no way was that calling David a monkey, for I agree with a lot of points he shared.
Does David have a case against Davey?
Did Davey spurt off because he's getting older now?
Do Davey's Youtube videos, pics, posts, and rants have hot attractivce, younger men in them since youthful gay men is what gets the most attention?
Can't Davey portray what he wants and what sells in social media land and as well be anti-ageist out at the clubs?
Which D do you side with?
UPDATE:
Thanks to one of our readers (Brendan) for pointing out Davey Wavey's response to David's response. And bravo Huffington Post for posting it on your own site.
Go here to read Davey's volley.
And here is his video response.
In my own contradiction,
In my own contradiction, Wavey has been a very interesting person to follow. He's kind of like that guy you want to sleep with only because he is so self-obsessed.
So similar to those times when you're driving with a friend and see an older person i.e. a "Santa Claus", and joke "100 points!!!!". You know you would NEVER actually do it. But if you did – it would be hilarious! (YOU know you still do it!) Until the end….when reality sets in….
Davey most likely was THAT twink in the pink tank. Many of us were. Then many of us matured. Before 37(?). But past 29. Nonetheless, I can only imagine the smell of cologne Perez Hilton was wearing on Ellen that day he "admitted" he was a bully.
For those of you that thought Narcissistic is a hybrid of the flower, feel free to click the link below….
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/narcissist
I think Davey’s heart was in
I think Davey's heart was in the right place, no matter how superficial he normally is. I am fine with his statement and thankful he tried to do the right thing.
Davey already responded to
Davey already responded to this shortsighted blog post yesterday.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/davey-wavey/lets-talk-about-people-th_b_9140696.html
All young people eventually
All young people eventually get old, so if anyone doesn't understand the offense right now, they will later. Even the most beautiful flower eventually wilts.
Asinine reporting, at best.
Asinine reporting, at best. David is more than entitled to call out the credibility of Davey both in his views and his position to provide commentary on the subject. He also does it in the credible and ethical journalistic fashion – by using evidence from Davey's own videos. On the other hand, we have the author here, Adam, who thinks ethics in journalism equates to "my best friend hates you," and ad hominem to try and devalidate the opinions of others. What a joke. "My friends are friends with Davey and they're livid with Connor's response?" Of course they'll be. They're his friends. Instinct should never have allowed him to even report on this.
Thanks for your comments,
Thanks for your comments, Skylar.
– Of course David is entitled to call out Davey and I don't think I went against that.
– Please refrain from giving me the title of journalist. I never was one, never tried to be one, never want to be one. If I wanted to wear a journalist's hat, I could, but I'm busy working full time as a college administrator and completing my PhD. Instinct is a chance to let loose, share my thoughts, cover topics I feel are important, humorous, timely, informative, and apparently stir up the waters of LGBT-land.
– I do not think I devalidated anyone's opinion (except yours right now – see, there's that humor). Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. I shared my friends' emotional response to David's "journalism" but apparently that was wrong? In a blog? Not at all.
– To reiterate, I am not a journalist and therefore do not "report," but blog. I thank Instinct for giving me the chance to share what is going on in the LGBT community and yes, I add my thoughts, what those around me think, and I even include my friends in some of the stories I share.
David Michael Connor’s
David Michael Connor's article fails to engage any of the substance of DaveyWavey's arguments about age-shaming in the gay community. Why is that? It is quite a silly article and is exceptionally poor non-journalism.
Connor's non-journalism article is just a petty complaint about DaveyWavey's channel. Connor's article belongs in the critics' pages of an entertainment website.
Davey gave it his best, he
Davey gave it his best, he can't help being a hot young guy, trying is always better than NOT trying. I BTW AM the fat Santa in the corner. (come sit on my lap Davey) Oh, never mind, I no longer have one.
I thought the rant had some
I thought the rant had some merit but was a bit over the top, somewhat of an exaggeration, but well intentioned. It assumes that all men over 40 are fat old men who resemble Santa Claus. It was also puddle deep, but can we really expect all that much from someone who is more an entertainer than anything else? I'm also curious, who is his audience? Other than this site, I'm not sure I ever see the guy anywhere else.