HIV Victims and Villains: Who Is Really At Fault?

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There is a common assumption among the sexually active homo population that it is the responsibility of HIV-positive men to disclose their status before engaging in bedroom gymnastics. Based on this assumption, a person who doesn’t mention his status before he tries and fails to make a baby with another man silently asserts that he is HIV-negative by default. Even if a person living with HIV is undetectable and protection was used, he would be considered reprehensible, immoral and altogether villainous character if he failed to disclose his scarlet plus sign to his unknowing HIV-negative partner. But when it comes to the laws of responsibility in HIV disclosure, sometimes there is more than one suspect in a crime.  

The Scene of the Crime

The following scenario is based on a true story

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Parker is a young, successful and single gay man living with HIV. Nathan is of the same homo vein, but he is HIV-negative. The two met while Parker was at a business conference and Nathan was on vacation with several of his friends. A mojito at the hotel pool quickly led to martinis at the closest gay bar. Dinner was served, flirtation escalated and Nathan ended up back in Parker’s room for a little more than dessert. The fast and frenzied pace of this out-of-town romance caught Parker by surprise and he failed to find the right moment to disclose his HIV status (and Nathan never asked). His viral load was at an undetectable level and they used protection, but his conscience wasn’t satisfied with this threshold of safety. 

The Confession

Parker and Nathan parted ways the next morning with plans to meet up for a drink later in the day.  By six o’clock, the weight of the guilt over not disclosing had Parker in need of more than just a strong pour on his vodka gimlet. He needed to clear the air. 

Parker told Nathan that he was HIV positive. He explained that he was on medication and had an undetectable viral load. He said that since they used a condom, his health was not at risk, but that it was important for Parker to be honest about his status. 

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Nathan was visibly shaken and admitted that Parker should have disclosed his status before they had sex. He was concerned because there was a lot of kissing and oral play that took place.  Parker explained the reality of transmission and that Nathan had nothing to worry about, but the damage was done. Nathan felt victimized and he was sitting across from the smoking gun.  Needless to say, the two men didn’t order a second round.

For the jury of public opinion, the judgment of who committed the crime and who was the victim receives a unanimous vote. But before the sentence of shame is handed down to Parker for not disclosing his status, let’s look at who had the motive to commit the crime. 

Parker did want to tell Nathan about his HIV status. As a man who was actively managing his disease with treatment, it was important for him to be up front about being positive, even if there was no health risk involved. However, many people fail to understand that when you become positive, you aren’t handed an operator’s guide on how to handle your new status. The variables of sexual psychology are limitless when concerning dating and HIV. Although he failed to disclose that he was a positive man, he had taken the steps to protect Nathan and himself—both by using a condom and being steadfast in his treatment regime. 

Nathan is a sexually active gay man who, by default, is part of the HIV community. With one out of every five gay males being HIV positive, it is his responsibility to protect his own sexual health.  It’s true—Parker did not disclose that he is HIV positive. But Nathan didn’t disclose that he was HIV negative, nor did he ask to know Parker’s status before the clothes started to come off. In this scenario, Nathan has a motive to stay negative. Therefore, he is also guilty of committing a crime of not disclosing his status and not inquiring about the status of his sexual partner.

This is only one out of many criminal scenarios that many of us find ourselves in when it comes to dating, dirty talk and disclosure. When it comes to sex, there are always two (or more) suspects whose motives should be investigated. And when it comes to protecting each other’s health, the burden is mutually shared and the responsibility is equally divisible, regardless of status.

I always disclose my HIV-positive status because it is in the best interests of my health, not yours.   

61 thoughts on “HIV Victims and Villains: Who Is Really At Fault?”

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    i meet a bar girl unfortunately i had sex with her with out condom once,after having the sex i took Hiv prevention drugs, then i had the sex with her on September 4. i went for hiv test it the same september it was negative, i did another hiv test on october it was negative, and november 4 i did again another test in two clinic all came out negative,which it total of 64 days after sex with her. but the worst of it all the lady i had sex with i called her to meet me in the clinic i have hot body,cold and itching inside my vain, so i have to visit the doctor, then after she was test positive OMG. since. i dont have any of this hiv symptom, such a rash,cough, headache,sore throat, high fever, my fever tested was 37c. but the doctor said i have low white blood cell. that i have Dengue, then i was treated after two days my white blood cell is normal again, but how come my partner is positive. up to 62 days i am still negative, can it be the hiv prevention drugs did it or the virus it not yet in my blood or i cant contact it with once making of love with her. because i after that about two weeks time i had urine infection i treated it, but i am still nervous. i want to know how many days or month can one contact hiv after having unprotected sex, after the treatment of dengue now. i have ask the laboratory test of hepatitis A,B,C.. including jaundice. i want an advices urgently please

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  18. Hello my name is Harmony I

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    email, she gave me his email, I emailed him he talked to me and he perform the
    necessary rituals and he told me that after one week I should go for a test. Which I did,
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    see another doctor the result was still the same, I was human on planet earth, so I
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  20. Hi, I work in a communication

    Hi, I work in a communication company I want to share my testimony to the world, my name is maria Katrina, i am from united kingdom in Belfast north Ireland, I was a stripper in a club I got effected with HIV due to the nature of my job, In April 15 2013 i was tested positive to HIV, Believe it or not this is a true life experience. This is not design to convince you but its just  a personal health experience . I never taught doctor ukpoyan could ever get my HIV-AIDS cured with his healing spell, i have tried almost everything but I couldn't find any solution on my disease, despite all these happening to me, i always spend a lot to buy a HIV drugs from hospital and taking some several medications but no relieve, until one day i was just browsing on the internet when i came across a great post of !Michelle! who truly said that she was been diagnose with HIV and was healed that very week through the help of this great powerful healing spell doctor ,I wonder why he is called the great papa ukpoyan, i never knew it was all because of the great and perfect work that he has been doing that is causing all this. so I quickly contacted him, and he ask me some few questions and so i did all the things he asked me to do, He never collected any money from me until I was finally cured, only to see that at the very day which he said i will be healed, all the strength that has left me before rush back and i becomes very strong and healthy, this disease almost kills my life all because of me, so i went to hospital to give the final test to the disease and the doctor said i am HIV negative, i am very amazed and happy about the healing doctor ukpoyan gave to me from the ancient part of Africa, you can email him now for your own healing too on his email: Dr.ukpoyanspellhome@hotmail.com thank you doctor for healing me.

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  21. HI My Name is MARIAN DUSS, I

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  22. I have to ask a questions to

    I have to ask a questions to you all ;

    • if a man (or woman) is HIV+, how long do they, most often they hide it?
    • How often do they expose others without informing them?
    • How often do HIV+ individuals, expose others, then say a lie "I didnt know I was pos" (when they did).

     I would like to know the real statistics on this but it would likely be impossible.

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  24. I have to ask a questions to

    I have to ask a questions to you all ;

    if a man (or woman) is HIV+, how long do they, most often they hide it?

    How often do they expose others without informing them?

    How often do HIV+ individuals, expose others, then say a lie "I didnt know I was pos" (when they did). 

     I would like to know the real statistics on this but it would likely be impossible. Getting your opinion is the best information I can get. I ask these questions having "seen it all".

     

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  25. This speaks to a

    This speaks to a "disagreement" I have had with another poz man I know.  It is his contention that he only informs people on a "need to know" basis or to potential sex partners.  I am totally transparent and list it in all of my online profiles!  I realize he is not ready for this yet but until he is ready, he is impeding my efforts to "normalize" AIDS/HIV.

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  26. This speaks to a

    This speaks to a "disagreement" I have had with another poz man I know.  It is his contention that he only informs people on a "need to know" basis or to potential sex partners.  I am totally transparent and list it in all of my online profiles!  I realize he is not ready for this yet but until he is ready, he is impeding my efforts to "normalize" AIDS/HIV.

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  28.  I have never relied on

     I have never relied on someone to disclose their HIV status to me unsolicited, even if they were pos. I always ask what someone's status is if I am going to sleep with them AND when their last test was, that is important to ask too. Maybe they got tested negative 10 years ago, contracted HIV since then, but don't know it.

     

     If you are sexually active, get an HIV test every 6 months and always talk about status don't expect the other person to tell you if you don't ask.

     

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    • Someone’s negative test

      Someone's negative test result is valid only up until the first time thereafter that person has high-risk  sex. Disclosure and discussion are important (and disclosure by poz guys is legally required in many places), but basing behavior on what someone merely tells you is foolish.  Every day in the U.S. alone, thousands of gay men contract HIV by having condomless sex, many of them with men who thought they were negative. This is why it's so important to take the responsibility of protecting yourself, regardless of what someone tells you. 

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  29. I don’t understand.. If he

    I don't understand.. If he felt compelled to share his HIV Poz status AFTER the sex, why is he absolved from feeling the need BEFORE having sex.. This isn't just about the likelihood of transmission.. if it were there would be little to be concerned about.. But human beings have strong internal emotional lives.. Something like this can cause panic and despair that could last months until they can clear a neg test themselves.. How much of ones life can be effected in that time? The damage to one's personal life as well as professional could be catastrophic. HIV poz men should disclose before sexual activity end of story. If I were POZ I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I were so careless as to wait until after sex to inform my partner.

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  30. In a perfect world, HIV

    In a perfect world, HIV Positive men should disclose their status before sex (even with a condom, they do break) and HIV Negative men should ask about their partners status (and assume that their partners may not tell them the truth)… I think the real question is… which is worse… knowing that you have put yourself at risk for infection or been infected… or knowing that you are putting someone else at risk for infection or infecting someone else. Each individual will have to answer that question.

    I am negative and in my 50s. I have had an active sex life since 1983 and have lived exclusivelsy in NYC and Los Angeles… I have either disclose my status quickly or if not then I assume that they are positive. In either case… I use condoms when I have sex for sport… the only time I have not used condemns is when I have been in long term relationships… all relationships take communication and I tend to talk (and listen) alot. I think having some common sense, self esteem and learning to tolerate my fear of rejection (HIV positive guys are not the only one rejected when disclosing their status) were more important than condoms in keeping me HIV negative. 

    Remaining HIV negative is my responsibility…

    Lastly… 

    If I were HIV positive… I am not sure I could live with myself if I infected someone else. I lived through the time when there was no treatment and saw too many of my friends die of AIDS. I also have many friends living with HIV now and know the toll that it takes on their lives. The amount of guilt I would feel condemning someone else to that existence would be high… and I would hope would overcome any fear of rejection I might have in disclosing my status… because condoms break… and I know they break because I have been using them for 30 years… 

     

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  32. I very much loved this

    I very much loved this article…alot of people w o this virus dnt understand the pressures involved w living w it everyday of their lives..the dr appointments the having to take the meds and of course the having to b honest about their status. ive been living w hiv for almost 5 yrs now ive gotten where im quickly upfront about it to others but it still can b difficult choosing the proper time to disclose it. this has me thinking bak to how i got infected. its a messy story..suffice to say I was drugged and made the meat of a party w 2 other guys that I didnt have any intention of having sex w when I went to go hang out w them. they r the villainous type..they dnt care who they give this virus to and what carnage they leave their victims in. im just one of god knows how many theyve both done this 2. so I have to say parker did the right thing..even tho he didnt disclose at first he still took steps to b safe and protect nathan and he still did the right thing and was honest. Ive always said after what happened to me that dear god ik its hard to tell others about this virus when u have it but if u cant tell others then at least just take means to protect your partner. if the 2 that did whatt they did to me w o disclosing at least protected me from this virus I woulda understood in retrospect and been thankful they at least kept me safe. uk this goes deeper and Ik im rambling but it really irks me how the neg community is always so focused on us poz people and they have this huge fear about us giving it to them and freak when we tell them…well what about what they might have? like whens the last time they were tested for anything at all..most ive encountered like that dnt get tested at all. dear god what if they gave us poz guys something else by accident? at least people like parker and I had the courage to get tested and do something responsibly to control this virus and protect others. also when ive been turned down bc of being honest about my status..people will go on to another and just take their word for it that they r clean and thro themselves into unprotected sex and then look down on people like me parker and many others who r honest. so I agree its importantt that yes we do need to take a look at what is really the real criminal activity. thanks aggain for posting this article.

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  33. What’s with this “villain”

    What's with this "villain" language? Unless someone knowingly infects someone, say by lying about their status in the first place, no one is a "villain." Shame on you for perpetuating such stigma.

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  34. Great essay – and by the way,

    Great essay – and by the way, people on treatment are not infectious; so what is the problem? Why all the talk of morals in the first place, we are not that dangerous, guys 🙂

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  36. Disclosure is a personal

    Disclosure is a personal journey, if we all promote and support safe sex there will be no problem. It's the no condom issue that is the villain. 

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    • Bingo, Jeff.  While

      Bingo, Jeff.  While disclosure is fine (and in many places legally required of poz guys), safer sex–that is, the consistent use of condoms for penetrative sex–is ultimately the answer, just as it always has been.  Were we to stick with that, villains, blame games, stigma and even HIV itself would all begin to fade away.

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  37. A person that is positive and

    A person that is positive and KNOWS it should ALWAYS disclose their status. If they cant handle the potential rejections maybe its time to stop having sex all together. Its tragic, but you have a responsibility NOT to run around purposefully spreading your disease!!! If you do not tell someone your status, you are robbing them of a choice. ANYTHINg could be going on where someone decided to have sex with you without protection. You could be tipsy, high, or just naive. Just because someone is naive or tipsy, does not mean they are deserving of anything that comes their way. And im not even calling anyone a villian. But it is your responsibility to inform others of your disease. It is BS to say "well he didnt ask me, so oh well, here take my sickness". 

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    • I can certainly understand

      I can certainly understand your ignorance since that precisely what this article was written about, although it's sad that you didn't "get" it (must be that it elicited such an emotional reaction that your were unable to understand the point.  Most of the poz guys won't–and don't tell you, although YOU bringing it up should be an important piece.  Perhaps YOU should stop having sex if not prepared to protect yourself, although most HIV+ men will not infect you.   Sounds like you got infected by someone due to your own denial and ignorance, which is YOUR responsibility.  Perhaps it's only a matter of time before you get infected by sometime, but you're no innocent victim.  I hear these stories from "victims" all the time.

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    • It is BS to say, “I didn’t

      It is BS to say, "I didn't want to get HIV but I was too lazy, too apathetic, too nervous to ask the status of my partner." If you don't want HIV, take responsibility for your own self and ask every time.

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  38. One should assume that

    One should assume that everyone is HIV+ when it comes to casual sex!  Protect yourself, honestly you can't expect others to look after you!

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    • I agree, people lie.  If you

      I agree, people lie.  If you don't assume everyone you have casual sex with is HIV Positive and take the necessary precautions, (especially if you do not bring up the subject first, assuming everyone you have sex with will be completely forthcoming), then you are playing Russian Roulette by your own choice.

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  40. My research in 2011 indicated

    My research in 2011 indicated that it is the responsibility of the HIV-negative person to maintain his negative status. 

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  41. what the fuck is up with all

    what the fuck is up with all the 'victim', 'crime' & 'villain' bullshit in this article? There are, with very rare exceptions, no victims & villains in hiv transmission. Just human beings making less than stellar decisions.

    Parker should have disclosed, yes. But Nathan should have equally played his part in bringing the subject up, as the responsibility is shared. And screw all the 1/5-or-maybe-not-if-you're-white crap. If you want to stay negative, assume that any partner you have is HIV+ and take the necessary precautions (condoms or sticking to non-penetrative sex).

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      • Yes, Dan is right on. And of

        Yes, Dan is right on. And of all the important truth he has spoken, nothing is more important than what he states in his final sentence:

        "If you want to stay negative, assume that any partner you have is HIV+ and take the necessary precautions (CONDOMS or sticking to non-penetrative sex)."

        The caps are mine. 

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    • BINGO!  If Tyler Curry wants

      BINGO!  If Tyler Curry wants to end stigma, he needs to check his own vocabulary and cut the masturbatory linguistic gymnastics.  Generally speaking, Gay and Bi men contract HIV because they take poor decisions based on assumptions about risk that are flawed in many ways, period.  No bad guys, just guys seeking connection and letting the little head rule the big one.

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  42. Great article.  They were

    Great article.  They were both adults.  If you ONLY want to have sex with neg men, it is as much your responsibility to ASK as it is the pos guy's to disclose.  "Nathan" is the villain of this story!  His after-the-fact judgment was self-righteous crap.  If you don't ask if is because you don't WANT to know.  Any other view is bulls**t!

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  44. There are alot of hiv pos out

    There are alot of hiv pos out there having sex and not informing except for maybe a statement about symptoms ie recent rash, constant headache, flu sx undiagnosed (to act as if they had informed someone and say they didnt know they were already pos).  being in denial for years,  See if you wife gets pos (or any partner) and them blame her for giving hiv to you.  This may sound nuts but its a real scenario I witnessed.  Pos, early diagnosis, treatment, functional cures, new viral load testing and stem cell transplants curing HIV; Things are changing, whether straight or gay.

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  45. Good story.  Undetectable

    Good story.  Undetectable does not mean nonexistent.  Undetectable simply means that current methodologies do not include a test that is able to detect viral load at very low levels.  For one to believe this means the virus is absent, or that it means transmission is not possible, is foolish.  It might mean decreased risk, but is does not mean risk free.  I have and will continue to discuss my status with a potential partner.  If it makes a difference to him, yes it hurts, but it ultimately saves us both a lot of time.

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  46. Mister doctor….I want
    Mister doctor….I want scientific data on a person undetectable for sakefof agreement fifteen years. I’ve would bet large sums of money that my seamen does not have the virus.

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  48. I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, disclose my

    I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, disclose my HIV-positive status to any potential sex partner(s) and have been doing so for the 23-plus years since my diagnosis (at present my viral load is still undetectable and my T-helper-cell count is a fantastic 654, up from a mere 70 in 1995, AMEN for that!). To my mind, it is my responsibility to share this incredibly important information with any man I may want to have sex with. This way they have the option of saying yes or no, and regardless of their reaction, I have been honest with them and my mind can be at peace. It will be 26 years this November since I converted to being positive and frankly, I more than likely wouldn't still be here had I selected to not be open and above board regarding my status. I could not live with myself thinking I may have been responsible for exposing another man to this disease, so a few words right off the go will allow my potential partner(s) to decide for themselves as to whether they want to be intimate with me or not. Once this hurdle has been crossed, it's up to us as to what level of sexual intimacy we want to pursue and engage in, but, whatever we do together will definitely be safe and decidedly honest too. Condoms are my friends and always will be…

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  49. My daughter is a nurse and

    My daughter is a nurse and she takes all the precautions needed with every patient she treats as if they were HIV+.  I you play around you should do the same.

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  50. I would be curious what Jack
    I would be curious what Jack Mackenroth thinks about it. Dies he tell every sexual encounter….I’m positive now screw me? Doubt it. Trust me there still is huge stigma attached. I had boyfriend dump me simply because of my status. Think how that makes a person feel

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  52. I completely agree with the

    I completely agree with the sentiment in this article.  It falls to each person who is having sex to keep their own safety in mind.  There is no right time to disclose your HIV status, positive or negative.  If you want to know, ask.  If you are concerned (and you should be) use a condom–for anything that worries you.  There's more than just HIV out there.

     

    That said, as a doctor, I want to correct Larry's point: just because one's HIV viral load is undetectable in the blood doesn't mean it's not there, just below an acceptable threshold for treatment response.  Further, HIV is still detected in the semen of men who have undetectable viral loads–it's just not clear if it's as infectious as those not on meds.  Long term studies of this have not been done.  The risk is assumed to be lower, but it's still unclear.

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    • I think medical professionals
      I think medical professionals claim this but there is no scientific proof. I’ve been undetectable for twenty years. It is not in my body fluids…I cannot pass this disease….others yes, if symptomatic. That is all.

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  53. I don’t agree with the

    I don't agree with the reasoning here.  If one out of five men who have sex with men is positive, it means that 80% of the members of that group are not.  It seems perfectly reasonable to assume, absent a disclosure to the contrary, that your (potential) partner is negative.  Add race and ethnicity into the mix and the numbers become very different.  A huge portion of new infections come from Black and Latino populations.  Thus, if Parker and Nathan are blonde-haired, blue-eyed dudes, the 1/5 number is likely inaccurate.

     

    I was in a long-term relationship with a guy who cheated and became positive.  After we broke up, he rationalized NEVER disclosing his status to men he hooked up with because he was on meds and they failed to ask.  I like to ask someone's status before clothes come off, but I'll admit that I've missed that opportunity a few times.  However, not disclosing a positive diagnosis is WRONG; it robs another person of the opportunity to make their own decision about their health.

     

    Parker should have figured out how to disclose.  Nathan is guilty of making a stupid mistake.

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    • Assuming someone is Negative

      Assuming someone is Negative despite the numbers is WRONG and STUPID. If you want to know for certain…ASK!!!

       

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      • Asking someone if his status

        Asking someone if his status is fine, but basing behavior on his response is foolhardy. He might be lying or he might not know that he's actually positive.  Better to presume that everyone is poz and to protect yourself accordingly by using a condom each and every time you have penetrative sex. 

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      • Each person is responsible

        Each person is responsible for his own health and his own decisions.  Life would be easier for everyone, neg and poz people, is we all play by the simple rules of safer sex.   But people are more worry about others' HIV status and not about playing safe.  Many neg people assume others are negative or believe what any sexual partner will tell them.  We all have to assume that everybody we have sex with is poz or could be, and it is our responsibility to play safe at all times with everybody.  I do not have any sympathy for those who will discriminate against someone poz but will go to bed for someone who may be lying by saying he is neg.  False sense of security,

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      • The ONLY thing one can know

        The ONLY thing one can know "for certain" is that someone is positive. Positive people have a set of information that the rest of us do not.

        I was not suggesting that people who have recently tested antibody negative should rely on "numbers" and act as though everyone they hook up with is negative until told otherwise.  Of course, EVERYONE should be using condoms (and maybe other prophylactics) and should ask every partner's status.  However, if someone KNOWS they are positive, THEY SHOULD DISCLOSE.  In the context of that discussion, they may need to educate their potential partner.  But, they have a unique informational advantage.

        If YOU want to know for CERTAIN, stop having sex.  There are no guarantees that ANYONE is negative, especially in a world where positive people don't feel the need to share their statuses.  

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  54. I like this article, as it

    I like this article, as it brings up the complicated nature of sex and HIV. In reality, we are all responsible for ourselves. I do think it is the proper thing for anyone to disclose their status, however everyone is responsible for themselves! If a person is neg and wishes to remain that way, they cannot wait around and hope that all poz people let them know. Rather, we should all take active responsibility for ourselves and start that conversation, neg or poz.

    Just on a side note, I would be cautious with referencing the 1-in-5 HIV statistic. The study that comes from (which this article fails to cite) has a rather problematic methodology, and the only population it really speaks toward is young, gay, poor, black men.

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  56. Not sure I would agree since
    Not sure I would agree since the negative man could be positive without knowing it, the positive man is not detectable, he can’t pass the disease, it is not in his body fluids. Thus I believe even if the sex was not protected, some discussion of health care is appropriate. I’m not saying anything about hiv status, General health, and lifestyle. I realize my words to be controversial.

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